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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?

You can also use the TY points at 1c value to book hotels, which means that is usually a better choice than transferring to Hilton which devalues them to typically .5c

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?

It may be better to sort these things out before applying next time so you don't end up disappointed.

 

If you are just using the points at 1 cent per point, may as well just get a no AF cash back card, IMO. The whole "value" is getting extra value above and beyond what cash back can get you. That's what the AF is for, and that's what transfers enable. 1 cent per point is an okay value but I don't see why you'd pay a fee for that since you end up with just 2% or 3% back on a few categories. In that case, better to use cash back.

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?


@kdm31091 wrote:

It may be better to sort these things out before applying next time so you don't end up disappointed.

 

If you are just using the points at 1 cent per point, may as well just get a no AF cash back card, IMO. The whole "value" is getting extra value above and beyond what cash back can get you. That's what the AF is for, and that's what transfers enable. 1 cent per point is an okay value but I don't see why you'd pay a fee for that since you end up with just 2% or 3% back on a few categories. In that case, better to use cash back.


Those 3 point categories cover many travel and entertainment costs weakly covered elsewhere, and th 1c is just the worst case scenario. Transfers to Flying Blue, for example, often 3c per point on flights to Europe that avoid LHR and those big fuel surcharges.  OP got a good card, just needs to understand where to redeem now, that's all. 

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Closingracer99
Valued Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?


@kdm31091 wrote:

It may be better to sort these things out before applying next time so you don't end up disappointed.

 

If you are just using the points at 1 cent per point, may as well just get a no AF cash back card, IMO. The whole "value" is getting extra value above and beyond what cash back can get you. That's what the AF is for, and that's what transfers enable. 1 cent per point is an okay value but I don't see why you'd pay a fee for that since you end up with just 2% or 3% back on a few categories. In that case, better to use cash back.


You're assuming I am disappointed? I haven't used my CB cards in a while now and rather rack up points for travel. 

 

Cards used daily....

AAdvantage Plat

Amex Hilton 

Citi Hilton post June 20th at Costco.

 

 

 

As far as the card works I A) know you can't "transfer" the points and can use it toward a flight and B) long term do predict they can transfer down the line since the devaluation of points since they did it a month ago with AA miles. Even if I'm wrong I can simple transfer them to Hilton 


My Cards: Amex BCE: $9,000, Amex Hilton HHonors: $2,000, Amex ED: $12,000, Barclays NFL extra points: $3,000, Bank of America MLB cash rewards: $17,000, BBVA compass NBA Amex triple double rewards: $17,000, Chase Amazon: $1,000, Chase Freedom: $9,000, Chase Sapphire: $5,000, Chase Slate: $5,000, Chase Disney: $4,000, Citi Double Cash: $5,400, Citi AA plat: $5,500, Citi Simplicity: $3,000, Citi Thank you preferred: $8,800, Capital one GM: $2,000, Capital one PlayStation: $3,000, Gamestop: $1,150, Amazon Store: $5,000, Ebay MasterCard: $5,000, American Eagle Storecard: $750, Macy's: $500
EX: 744, TU:750, EQ: 740
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Involver
Valued Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?

Please whatever you do, don't transfer your TYP to Hhonors points you'll be throwing away a ton of value.

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Closingracer99
Valued Contributor

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@Involver wrote:

Please whatever you do, don't transfer your TYP to Hhonors points you'll be throwing away a ton of value.


Lol I know about the devaluation but I have 98,000 points already and planning on going to SF or Denver during the summer so I rather transfer points between now and then and use up my points for a few free nights.


My Cards: Amex BCE: $9,000, Amex Hilton HHonors: $2,000, Amex ED: $12,000, Barclays NFL extra points: $3,000, Bank of America MLB cash rewards: $17,000, BBVA compass NBA Amex triple double rewards: $17,000, Chase Amazon: $1,000, Chase Freedom: $9,000, Chase Sapphire: $5,000, Chase Slate: $5,000, Chase Disney: $4,000, Citi Double Cash: $5,400, Citi AA plat: $5,500, Citi Simplicity: $3,000, Citi Thank you preferred: $8,800, Capital one GM: $2,000, Capital one PlayStation: $3,000, Gamestop: $1,150, Amazon Store: $5,000, Ebay MasterCard: $5,000, American Eagle Storecard: $750, Macy's: $500
EX: 744, TU:750, EQ: 740
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kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?


@Closingracer99 wrote:

@kdm31091 wrote:

It may be better to sort these things out before applying next time so you don't end up disappointed.

 

If you are just using the points at 1 cent per point, may as well just get a no AF cash back card, IMO. The whole "value" is getting extra value above and beyond what cash back can get you. That's what the AF is for, and that's what transfers enable. 1 cent per point is an okay value but I don't see why you'd pay a fee for that since you end up with just 2% or 3% back on a few categories. In that case, better to use cash back.


You're assuming I am disappointed? I haven't used my CB cards in a while now and rather rack up points for travel. 

 

Cards used daily....

AAdvantage Plat

Amex Hilton 

Citi Hilton post June 20th at Costco.

 

 

 

As far as the card works I A) know you can't "transfer" the points and can use it toward a flight and B) long term do predict they can transfer down the line since the devaluation of points since they did it a month ago with AA miles. Even if I'm wrong I can simple transfer them to Hilton 


Yes, but the point is that if you transfer them to Hilton for 0.5 cents per point, you'd be better off just using your Double Cash as the value would be greater. At 0.5 cents per point, you're earning a maximum of 1.5% back, and that's only on the 3x categories (plus, the annual fee to take into account).

 

Anyway, whatever works for you is what you need to do!

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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?


@Closingracer99 wrote:

@Involver wrote:

Please whatever you do, don't transfer your TYP to Hhonors points you'll be throwing away a ton of value.


Lol I know about the devaluation but I have 98,000 points already and planning on going to SF or Denver during the summer so I rather transfer points between now and then and use up my points for a few free nights.


You already have an Amex Hilton with a base earning rate of 3x HHonors points. If the goal is to get HHonors points, a no-bonus 1x/2x/3x TY card that transfers 1:1 won't help much (just when a merchant doesn't take Amex).

 

Using TYs at 1.25 cpp for airfare might be a better way to go.

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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Involver
Valued Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?

I'm not talking about a deval of HHonors points, I'm talking about the fact that HHonors points are worth maybe 0.4 - 0.5 cpp and TYP are valued at at least 1 cpp for redemption (and 1.25 cpp for travel purchase).  So, you're literally throwing away 60% of your value right off the bat.

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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Citi Thank you Premier?

Haven't done the math yet but you can transfer  TYP to Etihad guest, and book AA 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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