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Anonymous
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts


@Anonymous wrote:

@b wrote:

I've looked into combining some of my 3 accounts, but I keep getting turned down. The reasons cap 1 lists as to why I could be turned down don't apply to me though. 2 of my accounts are kinda new at being 7 months old, but it does say they need to be open for at least 6 months which they are. The 3rd I've had open for about 4 years, but it's only been a cap 1 account for the last 2 years or so as cap 1 had bought it from a different bank.

 

I've had nothing negative with these accounts, tried combining them with 0 balances and still am unable to. My cards are all linked as well.

 

Anyone have any idea why I keep getting denied? Thanks. Smiley Happy


Eep. This is the kind of thing I hope does not happen to me when mine are eligible to combine at end of January. Sorry this is happening OP.

 

My accounts are all originally Capital One accounts. OP mentions that one of his accounts was transferred over from a different bank. Possibly this may be the issue.


 

 

I look forward to hearing if you're able to successfully merge your accounts!!  Yes - I didn't realize that there were 'other determining factors' for eligibility outside of those that they list as requirements to do so ... so, it is interesting (while not encouraging) to hear that other factors may be considered to determine eligibility.

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Anonymous
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts

One other consideration to look at - when choosing which card to combine into, remember that generally the Capital One Visas are considered to be prime cards, while the Mastercards are generally considered to be subprime. So, you would not want to close a Visa by combining it into a Mastercard, as you are going from prime to subprime, and CLI's as well as other elements of your account could be less favorable than what you were used to. It's not worth getting a subprime card out of the deal even if it is your oldest card or lowest interest rate, simply because it is a subprime card and is in a different lending tier. Hope this helps. Smiley Happy

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jeffery581
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts

Yes the accounts do need to be opened for atleast 6 cycles. no pending or current charges and linked to online banking.

Capital One Quicksilver Visa | Capital One Quicksilver Matercard | Sony Visa | ebay Mastercard | Best Buy Visa| Shell Mastercard | CareCredit | Amazon Rewards Visa | Discover it | Lowes | Home Depot | Chase Freedom | Ebates Visa | TJMAX Platinum MasterCard | Stash Signature Visa | Hilton Amex | Bank of America Cash Rewards Visa | Bank of America Better Balance Rewards Visa | US Bank Cash Rewards | Blue Cash AMEX | IHG Rewards Club World Mastercard | Barclay Cash Foward World Mastercard | Bank of America Travel Rewards Visa | US Bank Cash 365 AMEX | Amex Everyday | Target | CITI Double Cash | WELLS FARGO PROPEL AMEX | Royal Carribean Visa | AARP REWARDS VISA | BEst Western Mastercard
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jeffery581
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts

they are not going to offer this and then say no, we want 2 annual fees. Not a factor at all.

Capital One Quicksilver Visa | Capital One Quicksilver Matercard | Sony Visa | ebay Mastercard | Best Buy Visa| Shell Mastercard | CareCredit | Amazon Rewards Visa | Discover it | Lowes | Home Depot | Chase Freedom | Ebates Visa | TJMAX Platinum MasterCard | Stash Signature Visa | Hilton Amex | Bank of America Cash Rewards Visa | Bank of America Better Balance Rewards Visa | US Bank Cash Rewards | Blue Cash AMEX | IHG Rewards Club World Mastercard | Barclay Cash Foward World Mastercard | Bank of America Travel Rewards Visa | US Bank Cash 365 AMEX | Amex Everyday | Target | CITI Double Cash | WELLS FARGO PROPEL AMEX | Royal Carribean Visa | AARP REWARDS VISA | BEst Western Mastercard
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jeffery581
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts

I dont consider mc anymore subprime than visa. That is incorrect. Both have differnt tiers, (siggy, world. ect...)

Capital One Quicksilver Visa | Capital One Quicksilver Matercard | Sony Visa | ebay Mastercard | Best Buy Visa| Shell Mastercard | CareCredit | Amazon Rewards Visa | Discover it | Lowes | Home Depot | Chase Freedom | Ebates Visa | TJMAX Platinum MasterCard | Stash Signature Visa | Hilton Amex | Bank of America Cash Rewards Visa | Bank of America Better Balance Rewards Visa | US Bank Cash Rewards | Blue Cash AMEX | IHG Rewards Club World Mastercard | Barclay Cash Foward World Mastercard | Bank of America Travel Rewards Visa | US Bank Cash 365 AMEX | Amex Everyday | Target | CITI Double Cash | WELLS FARGO PROPEL AMEX | Royal Carribean Visa | AARP REWARDS VISA | BEst Western Mastercard
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Anonymous
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts


@jeffery581 wrote:

Yes the accounts do need to be opened for atleast 6 cycles. no pending or current charges and linked to online banking.


Right, these are items that I am aware of as being required ... however, someone mentioned that they met all of this criteria but were still denied, with the CSR citing that there were other items being considered for qualification.

 

 

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UncleB
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts


@Anonymous wrote:

@UncleB wrote:

Lots of good advice here so far... as somebody in a similar situation, I just have one addition.

 

If you can, time your combination so that you can get a CLI on each card right before you 'merge' them, since combining accounts will likely 'reset' the clock on your CLIs for the remaining card.  Getting a CLI on either (or both) does not impact you ability to combine.

 

In my own case, I just got a CLI on each of my cards ($1k on each) in December and my QS1 AF isn't until July... so I plan to wait on combining until I get another CLI on each card again in June, then combine just before the July AF is due.  I didn't plan the dates out in advance... I just got 'lucky' that it worked out that way. 

 

If you have an AF due before your next eligible CLI, it might be more desirable to go ahead and combine them to avoid the AF.  You've got options!  Smiley Wink

 

Edited to add:  Happy New Year!


Great advice, UncleB! I will wait for my chance to ask for a CLI on both before merging.

 

One question that I do have though, can I PC my Venture into a QS and then ask to merge both cards in one phone call? Or should I space out the request for PC and the request for the merge?

 

My current QS is 22.9% while my Venture is at 17.9%. I've heard that it's easier pulling teeth than it is to ask Cap One for a lower APR, hence my wanting to PC Venture into QS (lower APR + no AF).


You definitely have the right idea!  Smiley Wink

 

While there is evidence of the occasional permanent APR reduction from Capital One, the handful of cases all reported going through the EO, and most folks (myself included) aren't going to go to that much trouble for an APR reduction on an account that is normally PIF each month anyway.  (Note:  I'm talking about permanent reductions here, not a 6-month temporary reduction that the front-line CSRs often offer folks - those are actually quite common).

 

The PC on your Venture will have to be done via CSR (either on the phone or chat) while the account combination is only available online (I know... it makes no sense to me either).  If it were me, I would PC the Venture right before the AF came due (so you can maximize your rewards), then do the actual combination after you had a chance to get a CLI on each account.  Once the Venture is PC to a QS, there's no urgency since both of your cards will be no-AF then. 

 

That being said, some folks prefer to not wait too long, since the combine feature has been unpredictable at times... you'll have to make that judgement call for yourself.  In my case, I'm choosing to wait, and if by some chance they pull the feature and combination isn't an option in June, I'll just close the QS1 anyway to avoid the AF.  The CL on my QS Visa is quite usable as it is, and while the 'combined' credit line would be nice for utilization, in my case it's not a show-stopper.

 

Good luck!  Smiley Happy

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UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: Combining Cap1 accounts


@jeffery581 wrote:

I dont consider mc anymore subprime than visa. That is incorrect. Both have differnt tiers, (siggy, world. ect...)


Humuhumunukunukuapua'a wasn't referring to what folks "feel" is prime vs. sub-prime, she was referring to the product offerings of Capital One.

 

If you look at their website, their current prime cards (Venture and Quicksilver) only come as Visa for new card holders.  Their sub-prime offerings only come as MasterCards, again to new card holders.

 

It has nothing to do with the 'perception' of either brand, it's just how Capital One has chosen to split their own products.  While you can get a 'World' MasterCard with Capital One through a series of PC and CLIs, you can't apply for it (with the notable exception of their co-branded cards, i.e. the GM card). 

 

I have no idea why Capital One chose to do this, but there was likely a financial reason or else they would let folks select which brand they preferred, like many banks did back in 'the old days' (and a few still do).

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UncleB
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts

Just wanted to add that if a Capital One account was previously another bank (i.e. HSBC/Orchard Bank) that is not a show-stopper; my own QS1 was originally a HSBC/Orchard Bank MasterCard and it is eligible to be combined with my QS Visa Signature.

 

Some folks over on the big thread have said that the name and address needs to be identical for the cards to be eligible, and a CSR can help with corrections.  For example, if one card has a middle initial and the other doesn't, or if the addresses are slightly different (one address is 'Highway', the other is 'Hwy').  I don't know if this made a difference in the end, so YMMV.

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Anonymous
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Re: Combining Cap1 accounts


@UncleB wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:


Great advice, UncleB! I will wait for my chance to ask for a CLI on both before merging.

 

One question that I do have though, can I PC my Venture into a QS and then ask to merge both cards in one phone call? Or should I space out the request for PC and the request for the merge?

 

My current QS is 22.9% while my Venture is at 17.9%. I've heard that it's easier pulling teeth than it is to ask Cap One for a lower APR, hence my wanting to PC Venture into QS (lower APR + no AF).


You definitely have the right idea!  Smiley Wink

 

While there is evidence of the occasional permanent APR reduction from Capital One, the handful of cases all reported going through the EO, and most folks (myself included) aren't going to go to that much trouble for an APR reduction on an account that is normally PIF each month anyway.  (Note:  I'm talking about permanent reductions here, not a 6-month temporary reduction that the front-line CSRs often offer folks - those are actually quite common).

 

The PC on your Venture will have to be done via CSR (either on the phone or chat) while the account combination is only available online (I know... it makes no sense to me either).  If it were me, I would PC the Venture right before the AF came due (so you can maximize your rewards), then do the actual combination after you had a chance to get a CLI on each account.  Once the Venture is PC to a QS, there's no urgency since both of your cards will be no-AF then. 

 

That being said, some folks prefer to not wait too long, since the combine feature has been unpredictable at times... you'll have to make that judgement call for yourself.  In my case, I'm choosing to wait, and if by some chance they pull the feature and combination isn't an option in June, I'll just close the QS1 anyway to avoid the AF.  The CL on my QS Visa is quite usable as it is, and while the 'combined' credit line would be nice for utilization, in my case it's not a show-stopper.

 

Good luck!  Smiley Happy


Thanks for the advice! You're right, there really isn't any rush to combine accounts if I can successfully PC my Venture to QS. I'll continue to wait it out as I don't plan to carry balances on either cards and there will be no AF, so no harm, really! Smiley Happy I will make sure to ask for the CLI's before considering the merge. Thanks again, UncleB!

 

OP, my apologies for hijacking your thread. My question felt in-line with yours, and I didn't think I should start a new thread for a question similar to yours Smiley Wink

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