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CA4Closure
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Credit Cards In General

I am not one to apply for credit cards that I do not need but I was thinking about this issue the other day. I read the Credit Card posts and see everyone is so caught up in getting more and more credit cards. Why? I see people looking to get more credit line increases. My total credit line is about $40,000 and I am quite happy with that.

I only want certain credit cards and will be content with $10,000 credit lines too. My goal is perhaps to have four VISA cards with an average of $10,000 or so each. I do not make huge purchases on them and if I do, I pay it off within 3-4 months. For example, if I am doing a project for my garage like putting in new cabinets, electrical outlets or drywall, I will use my credit card to buy the materials. Or, if a major auto repair bill hits, I will use my credit card to pay the bill BUT I will never spend on frivilous things.

My thinking is to have one Airline card like Delta; a Discover card; a Costco card and another VISA card. That is it. Anyone care to chime in on why I would need more credit cards?

My wallet can carry only four credit cards and the rest stays in my safe. What good is it if it stays in my safe? LOL

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kilj0y
Regular Contributor

Re: Credit Cards In General


@CA4Closure wrote:

I am not one to apply for credit cards that I do not need but I was thinking about this issue the other day. I read the Credit Card posts and see everyone is so caught up in getting more and more credit cards. Why? I see people looking to get more credit line increases. My total credit line is about $40,000 and I am quite happy with that.

I only want certain credit cards and will be content with $10,000 credit lines too. My goal is perhaps to have four VISA cards with an average of $10,000 or so each. I do not make huge purchases on them and if I do, I pay it off within 3-4 months. For example, if I am doing a project for my garage like putting in new cabinets, electrical outlets or drywall, I will use my credit card to buy the materials. Or, if a major auto repair bill hits, I will use my credit card to pay the bill BUT I will never spend on frivilous things.

My thinking is to have one Airline card like Delta; a Discover card; a Costco card and another VISA card. That is it. Anyone care to chime in on why I would need more credit cards?

My wallet can carry only four credit cards and the rest stays in my safe. What good is it if it stays in my safe? LOL


 Some people like to have multiple credit cards for different reasons. Different cards have different rewards or benefits attached to them that are useful. 

 

Large Credit lines allow people to use their card for their everyday spending without having to worry about spending over 30% utilization which would ding their score. This allows people to not have to make multiple payments during a cycle to not report a big balance.

 

If you are using credit cards for bigs purchases or auto emergencies then you really arent using credit responsibly. You should have an emergency fund that covers those costs. Or if it really came to it it would be better to get a 0% intro credit card or a loan instead of putting a large purchase on a credit card with 15%+ interest which is rediculous.

 

For your situations, theres really no need for more than 1 credit card with a huge limit. Unless you're utilizing the benefits of a travel card or a cash back card or a rotating category card.

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Anonymous
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I can and have spent over $80,000 in a year on personal items, not business spend.  When I had zero credit cards, I made $0 on that spend.

 

Now I can get up to 10% cash back on that spend.  I never pay interest.  I never report a balance other than AZEO.  My estimated cash back rewards in any given year based on average spend is close to $3000, but no single card gives me maximum rewards or value.

 

If you like having what you have, great.  But I will not leave one penny on the table when I can get it without much hassle or headache.

 

If I invest my estimated annual cash back at 7% for the rest of my expected life (I'm 43, assume I'll live to 78) at $3000 per year for 35 years, my estate will have $450,000 in just the investment portfolio I funded with cashback rewards.

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Dalmus
Valued Contributor

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While its true some people just "collect" cards because they can and it can be addicting.

 

Somebody like me, however, started out after BK with NO credit cards, so I had to work my way up starting with the garbage cards, then no-frills cards, then the mid-level cards, and now I'm finally getting "respectable" cards.  I organically grew my card portfollio that way, and now I'm in account contraction mode.

 

I have >20 cards...  the majority of which I don't really need.  My goals are to maximise my cashback, have at least one of each major card network, and to have a diverse portfolio of backing banks.  So I want to have at least an MC, Visa, Amex and Discover.  That's four cards.  To have at least two issuing banks for the MC and Visa, that's at least another two cards.  So my Overall Plan is to have at a minimum 6 cards to achieve my diversity goals.  But I have to be careful how I contract, because I do not want to drop my available credit  faster than my reporting balances.  So, as I get CLI's on my preferred cards, non-preferred cards get closed.

 

Now that I just did an $8,000 0% balance transfer to pay off a Prosper loan, I ratcheted up my usage, so I'm on pause with closing accounts until I pay that off.  The temprorary score hit is worth it for the $1,400 saved in interest over 18 months!

 

I hope that kind of helps with another perspective.

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
Valued Contributor

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You have stumbled on the site that is the AA of credit card junkies.   If you were on a site for wine enthusiasts, you would wonder why people are willing to pay $1000 for a bottle of wine when they can get something decent for $30.   How many baseball cards does a person need?

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Dalmus
Valued Contributor

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@CH-7-Mission-Accomplished wrote:

You have stumbled on the site that is the AA of credit card junkies.   If you were on a site for wine enthusiasts, you would wonder why people are willing to pay $1000 for a bottle of wine when they can get something decent for $30.   How many baseball cards does a person need?


 $30?  That's Special Occasion wine prices!  I pride myself on finding the $12-$20 bottles that are good for my regular wine consumption.  Smiley Happy

 

 I was given a glass from a $500 bottle of wine at an event once...  I wasn't impressed.  Another guest at the table with me was actually offended that I didn't like the wine.  They kept going on about where the grapes came from and the history of the region and why that made it better than anything from Napa Valley or Door County or wherever.  All I kept saying was "If it doesn't taste good, what good is the pedigree?"

 

 That reminds me of some of the credit card bank snobbery that you occasionally see here...  "You haven't succeeded in your rebuild until you have a Chase Saphire." 

NFCU MR: $25K | Venture: $21K | Amex ED: $18K | NFCU CR: $18K | Amex BCE: $15K | IT #1: $17.5K | PNC Core: $15K | PPMC:  $12K | Wells Fargo: $11K | Savor: 12K | Cap1 QS: $8.5K | Barclays Rewards: $7.75K | IT #2: $7.3K | MLife: $9.5K | Sportsman's Guide: $8.7K | PenFed PR: $5.5K | Elan Plat: $2.3K | TRV: $3.6K | BotW: $3K


Current FICO 8 Scores: EQ: 828| TU: 805 | EX: 814


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K-in-Boston
Credit Mentor

Re: Credit Cards In General


@CH-7-Mission-Accomplished wrote:

You have stumbled on the site that is the AA of credit card junkies.   If you were on a site for wine enthusiasts, you would wonder why people are willing to pay $1000 for a bottle of wine when they can get something decent for $30.   How many baseball cards does a person need?


Good analogies but there's only one AA of credit thread here. Smiley Tongue

 

I think everyone else pretty much hit all of the points.  If your cards work for you, that is wonderful and there is zero need to apply for any more.  Personally, I have a few reasons.  Foremost is that while I'm paying off lots and lots of it, I have a lot of revolving debt that I've been carrying for about a decade, so I need the utilization padding.  Next, I tend to primarily use one card and I have massive spend since basically everything but my mortgage, other loans and credit card payments get charged. Because of that, I've found myself being "maxed out" during a cycle before a payment is made - even with 5-digit credit lines. Finally, I like free stuff - I'm being rewarded with thousands and thousands of dollars in free travel for just making purchases that I would have been making anyway, so if there's say a $500 (or equivalent) signup bonus somewhere I'm probably going to take the issuer up on it.

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ls2016
Frequent Contributor

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OP, I enjoyed reading your post and I happen to ask myself the question you posted time and time again. I too, obtained 21 out of 22 cards over the last 17 months, not because there was a NEED, moreso a WANT. 17-months ago, no bank would loan me a dollar, now I receive pre-approvals from most. Since obtaining these cards, I've canceled 10 of them, down to 12 now. For me, I got caught in the hype of getting approved. I do not rely on credit cards and is afraid of racking up credit card debt. That is why I'm currently at $4.00 used out of $82,000.The excitement is definitely wearing off now and honestly, it's no longer fun for me to apply for cards. I will probably continue to apply for cards just because I can, but there's definitely not a need for them. Throughout this entire year, I've only spent $161 on a purse to treat myself (it took me a week to convince myself of this), otherwise I do not spend "just because" I can throw it on a card; afterall, credit is not free money, it has to be repaid. It is good to know that I can rely on a credit card if needed though versus a 300% APR payday loan, which I was caught-up in for years. Imagine how much money I've thrown away over the years. I live and I learn.

Thanks for sharing your original thoughts!

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K-in-Boston
Credit Mentor

Re: Credit Cards In General


@Dalmus wrote:

 That reminds me of some of the credit card bank snobbery that you occasionally see here...  "You haven't succeeded in your rebuild until you have a Chase Saphire." 


Smiley Very Happy Oh come on, let's make it Amex Centurion, at least.

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simplynoir
Community Leader
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Re: Credit Cards In General


@CH-7-Mission-Accomplished wrote:

You have stumbled on the site that is the AA of credit card junkies.   If you were on a site for wine enthusiasts, you would wonder why people are willing to pay $1000 for a bottle of wine when they can get something decent for $30.   How many baseball cards does a person need?


LOL if this site is the AA of credit card junkies I wonder what the churning reddit is then.

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