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I have a new Discover IT (my first time ever with Discover), and I have a couple of questions about how the 5% Cashback category works for Groceries.
1. Are taxable non-food items excluded? I often buy cleaning supplies, pet food, personal care stuff, flowers, etc at grocery stores.
2. Are a grocery store's own gift cards excluded? For several years I've been buying a $300 gift card at Whole Foods, on the 1st of each month, and using that card and my receipt balance as a way to keep on budget throughout the month.
The other day I bought strawberries together with a new $10 Whole Foods gift card at the WF store and paid with my Disco IT, as a test to see how it would break down on my online statement. The transaction at WF shows up, but no specific break-down of items.
Everything you pay for with Discover at a grocery store should earn the extra cash back, even the sales tax.
The only thing that doesn't earn cash back is if you use the 'cash over' feature to get cash back at the register (in which case the 'cash over' part doesn't count); everything else should work.
It's the store, not the product that counts. At a pure grocery store, every purchase should count at 5% (except, as has been noted, cash-over).
An open question is whether Walmart stores (and Target, Meijer, etc.) will count as grocery stores for the Discover 5%. The terms of the deal certainly give them leeway to exclude all such stores: "Grocery purchases made at convenience stores, gas stations, warehouse clubs, supercenters, discount stores (or at grocery stores associated with supercenters or discount stores) are not eligible." But even with similar language on other cards, I've had mixed results. From what I've heard, AmEx strictly treats Walmart and the like as *not* grocery. For Visa/MC, my general experience has always been that it follows the MCC coding for the store; if the store codes as MCC 5411, it will count as grocery, otherwise it will not. For Walmart and Target, that's a store-by-store issue. Typically the traditional (going back over 10 years now) Walmart/Target which was a discount store with just a couple aisles devoted to snacks and limited grocery items, those stores code as discount. The Walmart/Target stores which were built from the ground up as complete grocery stores (as most are now) typically code as grocery (5411), and thus do count as grocery for Visa/MC cards which offer extra cashback for grocery. The exception to that rule has been Chase, which specifically excludes Walmart and Target from the grocery category, no matter how it codes.
As for Discover, the only grocery bonus experience I've had with them dates back to 2011, and in that case, at least the Walmart stores I went to, did not count for 5%.
You can bet I'll be hitting Walmart with my Discover card tomorrow for some test transactions.
Chris.
@Anonymouswrote:It's the store, not the product that counts. At a pure grocery store, every purchase should count at 5% (except, as has been noted, cash-over).
An open question is whether Walmart stores (and Target, Meijer, etc.) will count as grocery stores for the Discover 5%. The terms of the deal certainly give them leeway to exclude all such stores: "Grocery purchases made at convenience stores, gas stations, warehouse clubs, supercenters, discount stores (or at grocery stores associated with supercenters or discount stores) are not eligible." But even with similar language on other cards, I've had mixed results. From what I've heard, AmEx strictly treats Walmart and the like as *not* grocery. For Visa/MC, my general experience has always been that it follows the MCC coding for the store; if the store codes as MCC 5411, it will count as grocery, otherwise it will not. For Walmart and Target, that's a store-by-store issue. Typically the traditional (going back over 10 years now) Walmart/Target which was a discount store with just a couple aisles devoted to snacks and limited grocery items, those stores code as discount. The Walmart/Target stores which were built from the ground up as complete grocery stores (as most are now) typically code as grocery (5411), and thus do count as grocery for Visa/MC cards which offer extra cashback for grocery. The exception to that rule has been Chase, which specifically excludes Walmart and Target from the grocery category, no matter how it codes.
As for Discover, the only grocery bonus experience I've had with them dates back to 2011, and in that case, at least the Walmart stores I went to, did not count for 5%.
You can bet I'll be hitting Walmart with my Discover card tomorrow for some test transactions.
Chris.
I know it can vary from location to location (based on the things you already mentioned) but I'm still looking forward to hearing how Discover works out for you this quarter!
Be sure to let us know how those test transactions go!
OP, I love the way you budget for groceries using a prepaid gift card.
Awesome!
I do most of my grocery shopping either at Walmart (which has a Supercenter with a complete supermarket down the road from me) or Food Lion, a regional (Southern U.S.) chain. Actually, has anyone asked Discover directly if purchases made from the grocery section of Walmart will count for the 5%? I get my prescriptions at Harris Teeter (a brand of the Kroger chain), and I think that when I picked up some fairly pricey prescriptions (insulin for type II diabetes plus supplies) there last year and paid with my older Discover during the 5% cash back period, it went into the 5% CB category.
This will be important to find out since I might be putting up to $750-$800 through my new Discover during the April-June period and I want to make sure I don't buy groceries at places that won't generate the 5%.
@UncleBwrote:
@Anonymouswrote:It's the store, not the product that counts. At a pure grocery store, every purchase should count at 5% (except, as has been noted, cash-over).
An open question is whether Walmart stores (and Target, Meijer, etc.) will count as grocery stores for the Discover 5%. The terms of the deal certainly give them leeway to exclude all such stores: "Grocery purchases made at convenience stores, gas stations, warehouse clubs, supercenters, discount stores (or at grocery stores associated with supercenters or discount stores) are not eligible." But even with similar language on other cards, I've had mixed results. From what I've heard, AmEx strictly treats Walmart and the like as *not* grocery. For Visa/MC, my general experience has always been that it follows the MCC coding for the store; if the store codes as MCC 5411, it will count as grocery, otherwise it will not. For Walmart and Target, that's a store-by-store issue. Typically the traditional (going back over 10 years now) Walmart/Target which was a discount store with just a couple aisles devoted to snacks and limited grocery items, those stores code as discount. The Walmart/Target stores which were built from the ground up as complete grocery stores (as most are now) typically code as grocery (5411), and thus do count as grocery for Visa/MC cards which offer extra cashback for grocery. The exception to that rule has been Chase, which specifically excludes Walmart and Target from the grocery category, no matter how it codes.
As for Discover, the only grocery bonus experience I've had with them dates back to 2011, and in that case, at least the Walmart stores I went to, did not count for 5%.
You can bet I'll be hitting Walmart with my Discover card tomorrow for some test transactions.
Chris.
I know it can vary from location to location (based on the things you already mentioned) but I'm still looking forward to hearing how Discover works out for you this quarter!
Be sure to let us know how those test transactions go!
The thing is Discover doesn't give any breakdown of how much any single transaction earned for rewards. You only get a very basic breakdown on the statement of 5% rewards = $X.xx, 1% Everything = $X.xx. So you won't know how much a Walmart (or any) transaction earned, unless you can figure it out from the statement summary. But in my experience my local Walmart codes as grocery on Barclays Visa/MC, but not Amex or Disco.
For all their other issues, that's one area where Barclays is ahead of the competition as it lists the rewards detail for every transaction, Amex & Discover only give you lump sum statement summaries.
OP, you need to do your own test transactions at the exact stores you hope to use for groceries. Don't rely on the reports of others here in the forum because what works at their store might now work at your store.