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I recently got the PenFed Pathfinder card as an honors advantage member. Among others, some standout perks are:
$100 Annual "domestic air ancillary travel" statement credit - has some limitations like cabin upgrades
Points can be exchanged for travel, merchandice, merchant GC, or Visa GC. The latter comes to about $0.0085/pt. The former you can get closer to 1:100. Effectively this makes it anwhere from a 3.4-4% CB card (for travel). Annoyingly, however, is that unless you are looking for a GC from Panera, IHop, or Chipolte, redemption is in increments of $25 (except travel, I think). Therefore you are almost always going to have points "left behind". Another annoyance is that if you are wanting to create a single bucket of points by getting the Platinum Rewards for gas, you are supposedly out of luck (according to the CSR).
Is this the best general purpose travel card out there or is there something better I should take a look at?
There are certainly more popular travel cards out there from Amex, Chase, etc. What's "better" is going to be up to the individual and how much you spend, how much you travel, and how you hope to use the rewards. I think the Pathfinder looks pretty good. If PenFed ever starts letting us PC from one card to another, I'll change my Gold to a Pathfinder to get some kind of rewards out of it.
@phantasm wrote:Points can be exchanged for travel, merchandice, merchant GC, or Visa GC. The latter comes to about $0.0085/pt. The former you can get closer to 1:100. Effectively this makes it anwhere from a 3.4-4% CB card (for travel). Annoyingly, however, is that unless you are looking for a GC from Panera, IHop, or Chipolte, redemption is in increments of $25 (except travel, I think). Therefore you are almost always going to have points "left behind". Another annoyance is that if you are wanting to create a single bucket of points by getting the Platinum Rewards for gas, you are supposedly out of luck (according to the CSR).
That's exactly like the rewards system I have with the Platinum, which is a card I like quite a bit. Yeah, it's a little annoying that there are points "left behind," but I can use them next time. I didn't know that points wouldn't transfer between cards like Platinum and Pathfinder. I haven't looked at those details all that close because I haven't tried to get a Pathfinder.
Agreed with the above about "better" being subjective. What is "better" for you may not be "better" for someone else.
@OmarGB9 wrote:Agreed with the above about "better" being subjective. What is "better" for you may not be "better" for someone else.
Care to qualify this a bit more? For me a general travel card is one that is all purpose and not specific to a single use case. I'd love to hear some other examples of generic travel cards and how they rank against the PenFed card.
@phantasm wrote:
I'd love to hear some other examples of generic travel cards and how they rank against the PenFed card.
This may be an unpopular suggestion, but I'd say go watch YouTube. There are lots of comparisons of travel cards there.
I say it could be unpopular here becuase there is a lot of inaccurate information there and a lot of YouTubers get paid to promote certain cards. So just take their glowing reviews with a grain of salt. Probably not a whole lot of discussion of PenFed there, but there are many videos on Chase vs Amex vs whoever. You can get an idea of the pros and cons of various travel cards and compare those to what PenFed offers.
@mgood wrote:
@phantasm wrote:
I'd love to hear some other examples of generic travel cards and how they rank against the PenFed card.This may be an unpopular suggestion, but I'd say go watch YouTube. There are lots of comparisons of travel cards there.
I say it could be unpopular here becuase there is a lot of inaccurate information there and a lot of YouTubers get paid to promote certain cards. So just take their glowing reviews with a grain of salt. Probably not a whole lot of discussion of PenFed there, but there are many videos on Chase vs Amex vs whoever. You can get an idea of the pros and cons of various travel cards and compare those to what PenFed offers.
Yeah -- same reason why TPG, Forbes, and others aren't my first stop for unbiased comparisons. To me MyFico forums has been a bit of a gold mine, much better than r/creditcards. I also like DoctorofCredit but having others' unbiased opinions is the best.
@phantasm wrote:
@OmarGB9 wrote:Agreed with the above about "better" being subjective. What is "better" for you may not be "better" for someone else.
Care to qualify this a bit more? For me a general travel card is one that is all purpose and not specific to a single use case. I'd love to hear some other examples of generic travel cards and how they rank against the PenFed card.
Well, you'd probably want to look at NFCU Flagship or Amex Platinum or Chase CSR/CSP, aka the usual/most popular cards.
@phantasm wrote:
@mgood wrote:
@phantasm wrote:
I'd love to hear some other examples of generic travel cards and how they rank against the PenFed card.This may be an unpopular suggestion, but I'd say go watch YouTube. There are lots of comparisons of travel cards there.
I say it could be unpopular here becuase there is a lot of inaccurate information there and a lot of YouTubers get paid to promote certain cards. So just take their glowing reviews with a grain of salt. Probably not a whole lot of discussion of PenFed there, but there are many videos on Chase vs Amex vs whoever. You can get an idea of the pros and cons of various travel cards and compare those to what PenFed offers.
Yeah -- same reason why TPG, Forbes, and others aren't my first stop for unbiased comparisons. To me MyFico forums has been a bit of a gold mine, much better than r/creditcards. I also like DoctorofCredit but having others' unbiased opinions is the best.
You can learn a lot watching those vids. Just don't start believing that every word they speak is fact.
What's lacking on that card is the value from transfer partners. Most of the transfer partners from the majors you should be able to get over one cent/point.
@Hoben02 wrote:What's lacking on that card is the value from transfer partners. Most of the transfer partners from the majors you should be able to get over one cent/point.
Right, or even, in the case of say CSP, enhanced value in the portal, where points are worth 1.25c (and yes, arguments about whether the portals are the best value......)
Which is not to say the Penfed card isn't good for the right person. It's more a cashback card with travel categories than a classic travel card (although global entry credit goes a little against that!)