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Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels

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Re: Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels

OP are your 2.2x Marriott redemptions at lower tier or category hotels? I don't think you are getting that at ritz tier 4 60k or category 8 Marriott 40k.
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Re: Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels

I'm at a cat 9 right now (Essex house) getting 2.2 cents per point.

Once you get into the $6-700 daily rate hotels, tax plays a huge role in the redemption.
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Re: Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels

But the 2.1% is based on a stupid valuation by the points guy. His valuations are just stupid. I've never gotten less than 1.3 cents per point on a Marriott redemption. I just won't use them if they're less than that.
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@jsucool76 wrote:
But the 2.1% is based on a stupid valuation by the points guy. His valuations are just stupid. I've never gotten less than 1.3 cents per point on a Marriott redemption. I just won't use them if they're less than that.

TPG is stupid because he runs some cave man algorithm (i.e., it's by hand) and selects a group of redemptions to compare and average out the value. This method assumes that people are stupid and would be willing to cash in on a redemption for an expensive night at 0.5 per point when no one in their right mind would do this. People search for good deals and would reject crappy redemptions. AFAIK, TPG does not calculate this into his valuations because he is a cave man trying to do a computer's job.



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@CreditSnorlax wrote:

@jsucool76 wrote:
But the 2.1% is based on a stupid valuation by the points guy. His valuations are just stupid. I've never gotten less than 1.3 cents per point on a Marriott redemption. I just won't use them if they're less than that.

TPG is stupid because he runs some cave man algorithm (i.e., it's by hand) and selects a group of redemptions to compare and average out the value. This method assumes that people are stupid and would be willing to cash in on a redemption for an expensive night at 0.5 per point when no one in their right mind would do this. People search for good deals and would reject crappy redemptions. AFAIK, TPG does not calculate this into his valuations because he is a cave man trying to do a computer's job.


Eh, while I agree that his calculations aren't always the best I think you're incorrect that people won't accept a .05 redemption.  I bet that happens quite often.  The vast majority of people that have Marriott or any points/miles don't read these types of forums and probably are redeeming their points or miles for far less than optimal value.  Heck, I've seen people here do that so it happens.

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Re: Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels


@Irish80 wrote:

@CreditSnorlax wrote:

@jsucool76 wrote:
But the 2.1% is based on a stupid valuation by the points guy. His valuations are just stupid. I've never gotten less than 1.3 cents per point on a Marriott redemption. I just won't use them if they're less than that.

TPG is stupid because he runs some cave man algorithm (i.e., it's by hand) and selects a group of redemptions to compare and average out the value. This method assumes that people are stupid and would be willing to cash in on a redemption for an expensive night at 0.5 per point when no one in their right mind would do this. People search for good deals and would reject crappy redemptions. AFAIK, TPG does not calculate this into his valuations because he is a cave man trying to do a computer's job.


Eh, while I agree that his calculations aren't always the best I think you're incorrect that people won't accept a .05 redemption.  I bet that happens quite often.  The vast majority of people that have Marriott or any points/miles don't read these types of forums and probably are redeeming their points or miles for far less than optimal value.  Heck, I've seen people here do that so it happens.


@ok yes I agree but in the context of this debate between CSR and SPG/Marriott, both posters obviously know what they are doing and so @jsucool76's point about TPG valuations being incorrect are accurate. I should've clarified that when I said "people," I meant "myFICO people," which are a very different population than regular people for a variety of reasons lol


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Re: Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels

@irish

The problem is that he's posting them, and the people who read his blog either have some knowledge, or are wanting to learn how to maximize rewards. By giving out a lowball valuation, people who are using his blog as a guide think they're getting max value at 0.7 cents per point, which is just bull. He should put value ranges instead of hard values, allowing people to know the potential, and then letting them make their own decisions.
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@jsucool76 wrote:
@Irish

The problem is that he's posting them, and the people who read his blog either have some knowledge, or are wanting to learn how to maximize rewards. By giving out a lowball valuation, people who are using his blog as a guide think they're getting max value at 0.7 cents per point, which is just bull. He should put value ranges instead of hard values, allowing people to know the potential, and then letting them make their own decisions.

Oh I agree with what you are saying.  It can be very misleading.

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Re: Marriott Credit Card Now Earns 5x at SPG Hotels

Plus, judging by the sheer number of "articles" (advertisements) he's released for the Reserve card,id say his commission for the Reserve card for outweighs anything he makes from any other card.


Chase was trying to make a statement in the Super premium card market, and they did. And they used him to do so, and paid him handsomely.
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@jsucool76 wrote:
Plus, judging by the sheer number of "articles" (advertisements) he's released for the Reserve card,id say his commission for the Reserve card for outweighs anything he makes from any other card.


Chase was trying to make a statement in the Super premium card market, and they did. And they used him to do so, and paid him handsomely.

No doubt.  He certainly has become the de facto spokesperson for the card.  It seems like everyday he has a new 'article' about the card.  It is a good card but come on, it isn't the deal of the century.

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