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New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit

Hello all,

 

First post, been reading the forum for a while, it is a really great resource. Thanks to all who contribute.

 

So, I moved to the US two years ago from the UK and I'm hoping to get some advice on growing my credit rating.

 

Currenty I have an EX score of 719, and a TU score of 740. EQ can't seem to find me for some reason so no score for them. Financial providers being unable to identify me has happened a few times when trying to open checking/savings accounts etc.

 

Current Cards - I am an AU on my wife's Chase Freedom. In addition, in my own name, I also have a BoA Virgin Atlantic white card, and an Amex EDC, although these are only a couple of months old. My AAOA is just 2 years 9 months. Total credit limit accross all three cards is $13,000 ($6,500 Chase, $4,500 BoA & $2,000 Amex), utilisation varies at points during the month, but we try to make regular payments to keep it under 10%. Household income is around $150,000, no debts, and no mortage as we rent.

 

All balances are paid in full at the end of the billing period, have never carried a balance and no black marks on my report and only 2 hard inquiries on there (BoA and Amex). Chase is mainly used a couple of times a month just to keep it active (Netflix etc.), Amex we use for groceries and day-to-day spends, and the BoA is used mainly by my wife on her day to day stuff and when we book flights with Virgin Atlantic (maybe 4+ times a year).

 

So my question is, what should I look to do next in order to grow my credit rating, limit and file? Just keep doing what I am currently doing? Look to get other cards? We travel a fair amount visiting family, so have been looking at CSR and Amex Plat for the lounge access and other travel perks, but I'm worried an application for them would be an application too far, too soon. In addition, my wife is a little worried about having many more new credit applications hit her/my report etc.

 

Like I say, my main concern is maintaining and growing my fledgling CR! Any advice greatfully recieved. Thanks! 

 

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Medic981
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit

Welcome to the myFICO forums!

 

Ultimately, what a person needs to improve their FICO scores and build credit are three open credit cards (secured or unsecured) in good standing and one open installment loan in good standing such as a car, home, student, personal, share secured, or credit building loan. This combination is what the myFICO score theorists here have determined is what you need for optimal credit building and FICO score. You can have more CCs and more installment loans, however, this will not increase your FICO scores.

Next, is paying in full all of the credit card balances each month, before the posting date, except one. This is called the All Zero Except One (AZEO) method. The one credit card you allow to post a balance needs to be less than 8.9% of the credit limit of the card. So using one card each month to buy lunch, letting it report and then paying in full will maximize FICO scoring.

The installment loan will have its greatest impact on your FICO score when the amount owed is at its smallest such as a few months before the loan is paid in full. If you don't have an installment loan you can check into SelfLender or a Share Secured Loan at a Credit Union.

Keep in mind, building credit is a marathon, not a sprint. It involves demonstrating to a potential creditor that a person can handle credit responsibly. Having open, active accounts that are being paid on time and low credit utilization is the fastest way to build good, solid credit.







Your FICO credit scores are not just numbers, it’s a skill.
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Anonymous
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I'll look into the secured options you mentioned.

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Anonymous
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit

There are some credit cards for people with thin files: Petal and Deserve. 

 

When you’re ready to apply for a new card, I’d check out Discover’s prequalification page as see if you can get a Discover It. Another possibility is the PayPal 2% Mastercard. But I would take some time to build your current profile and research more before applying for a new card. 

 

Good luck on your credit journey! 

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Anonymous
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit


@Anonymous wrote:

Hello all,

 

First post, been reading the forum for a while, it is a really great resource. Thanks to all who contribute.

 

So, I moved to the US two years ago from the UK and I'm hoping to get some advice on growing my credit rating.

 

Currenty I have an EX score of 719, and a TU score of 740. EQ can't seem to find me for some reason so no score for them. Financial providers being unable to identify me has happened a few times when trying to open checking/savings accounts etc.

 

Current Cards - I am an AU on my wife's Chase Freedom. In addition, in my own name, I also have a BoA Virgin Atlantic white card, and an Amex EDC, although these are only a couple of months old. My AAOA is just 2 years 9 months. Total credit limit accross all three cards is $13,000 ($6,500 Chase, $4,500 BoA & $2,000 Amex), utilisation varies at points during the month, but we try to make regular payments to keep it under 10%. Household income is around $150,000, no debts, and no mortage as we rent.

 

All balances are paid in full at the end of the billing period, have never carried a balance and no black marks on my report and only 2 hard inquiries on there (BoA and Amex). Chase is mainly used a couple of times a month just to keep it active (Netflix etc.), Amex we use for groceries and day-to-day spends, and the BoA is used mainly by my wife on her day to day stuff and when we book flights with Virgin Atlantic (maybe 4+ times a year).

 

So my question is, what should I look to do next in order to grow my credit rating, limit and file? Just keep doing what I am currently doing? Look to get other cards? We travel a fair amount visiting family, so have been looking at CSR and Amex Plat for the lounge access and other travel perks, but I'm worried an application for them would be an application too far, too soon. In addition, my wife is a little worried about having many more new credit applications hit her/my report etc.

 

Like I say, my main concern is maintaining and growing my fledgling CR! Any advice greatfully recieved. Thanks! 

 


Welcome to the forums.  You're off to a great start so my advice is to continue on your current course and not get caught up in applying for too many credit cards. Smiley Happy

 

How long have you had the two cards that are in your name, and what is your average age of accounts excluding the authorized user (Chase) account?  To generate FICO scores you need an account that reports to the three major credit bureaus for at least 6 months.  So if the two cards in your name are less than 6 months old its possible that Equifax does not yet have enough data to generate a score.

 

The most logical place to obtain credit is with your existing/current creditors.  Bank of America issued cards can grow very quickly because they allow you to apply for credit increases via "soft pulls" every three months.  Similarly your American Express credit limit can also grow quickly.  Amex allows you to request 3 times your current credit limit after having a card for 61 days; then you can ask for additional increases every 180 days.

 

Again, I'd caution you against opening new credit cards too rapidly; there's a significant FICO score penalty if your average age of accounts falls below 2 years, and another one every time you apply for a new card and the age of your youngest account resets to zero (nought).  So you're better off growing the credit limits on your existing cards rather than opening new ones.  I suspect your AAoA is over 2 years because of the authorized user account, and some lenders will discount the presence of an AU account when making lending decisions.

 

It will be difficult for you to obtain a premium card like the CSR on your own unless you have a depository relationship with Chase Bank...and they typically like to see an AAoA of over 1 year (excluding AU accounts) for their basic cards like the Freedom and Freedom Unlimited and even longer for their flagship CSR card.  Its slightly different with Amex since as your relationship with them develops they will give you pre-approvals for all the other cards they issue.

 

Good luck.

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HeavenOhio
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit

Welcome, @Anonymous. Smiley Happy

 

Here's the big share secure loan technique thread. Check out the first three posts. Then jump to the last couple of months of posts at the end of the thread.

 

We really know the ages of your two cards. The two cards you have now should position you for nice products. Knowing the ages of your cards will help us advise you as to the best time to apply for something new.

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Anonymous
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit

Thanks for all the replies so far. Age of accounts are as follows:

Chase: 5 years 4 months (I've only been an AU on this card for 1 year and 10 months though)
BofA: 2 months
Amex: 1 month

So I guess the average age of my own accounts, not including Chase, is 1.5 months!

I suppose all I really want to know is if I'm on the right track to be honest. New country, new credit history and to be honest, until I met my wife I was never really expecting to have to begin all this again in a new country!
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Anonymous
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Re: New(ish) immigrant looking to grow credit


@Anonymous wrote:
Thanks for all the replies so far. Age of accounts are as follows:

Chase: 5 years 4 months (I've only been an AU on this card for 1 year and 10 months though)
BofA: 2 months
Amex: 1 month

So I guess the average age of my own accounts, not including Chase, is 1.5 months!

I suppose all I really want to know is if I'm on the right track to be honest. New country, new credit history and to be honest, until I met my wife I was never really expecting to have to begin all this again in a new country!

Your actual AAoA is less than the 2 yr 9 mths (33 months) you originally stated.  AAoA is calculated as follows: (64+2+1)/3 = 22.3 months or 1 year 10 months.  Your currently reported AAoA is skewed because your American Express card has not yet reported to the credit bureaus.  Amex takes two billing cycles before the account starts reporting, and when it does your AAoA will fall below the 2-year benchmark since your total length of credit history will then be divided by 3 instead of 2 as it is right now.  Expect to see a drop in your FICO scores as a result of a new account reporting (new credit penalty) and from AAoA going below 2 years.

 

The good news is that you will eventually recover those FICO points in three months if you don't apply for any other credit cards as your AAoA will climb back over 2 years and the new account penalties start dissipating when the accounts turns 3 months old.  So don't be surprised to see a temporary drop in your credit scores.

 

Another point to consider if that if you had an American Express card in the U.K. you can have that history transferred through the Global Card Transfer program.

 

You certainly appear to be on the right track; just allow your existing accounts to mature and try not to have balances reporting at above 28.9% of your credit limit.  In another few months it will be possible to apply for another credit card without causing your AAoA to drop below 2 years.  But for now I would suggest concentrating on increasing the credit limits of the BoA and Amex cards.  BoA will allow you to apply for an increase once that card is 3 months old.  You will see a red hyperlink appear in your online account inviting you to increase your credit limit.  With American Express you can apply to triple your current credit limit once your card reaches 61 days from the approval date.

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