Official Bonvoy Brilliant updates?

[mkhan1093]

Came across this photo on social media:

And later found this in the terms: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card-application/apply/supplementary/terms/marriott-...

So I guess these are the official new terms now? Gonna probably see that AF go up real fast

[SPChaser]

Saw this too in my Amex app that Marroitt card design changed. I was going to post this in a separate thread, but since you posted this, I'd like to add, this is the last day those currently having the Brillant can use the $300 travel credit per Doctor of Credit site - https://www.doctorofcredit.com/american-express-changes-marriott-bonvoy-brilliant-300-credit-replace...

[Mdowning30]

Just looked at the Bonvoy Bevy and it doesnt make sense that one has a $250 AF but has better multipliers than the Brilliant. The Bevy can beat out the Gold card.

[MachoHombre]

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@mkhan1093 wrote:

Came across this photo on social media: (snip)

And later found this in the terms: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card-application/apply/supplementary/terms/marriott-...

So I guess these are the official new terms now? Gonna probably see that AF go up real fast

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Interesting and thanks for posting.   Well, the Bonvoy Platinum is welcome news to me, (assuming Marriott doesn't dumb that down).  I had committed to keep this card another year, this made it easier.   If the AF goes up I'll again re-evaluate.

And like @SPChaser , I noticed the design change in the app but wasn't savy enough to connect the dots.

Thanks @mkhan1093  again for the info of what's coming.

BTW, I decided to test the double-dip on existing card (out of curiosity) ...loaded $25 on Starbuck's app this morning.   supposedly existing card holders can double-dip on the monthly dining credit OCT NOV DEC  ...but I figured little cost in trying late Sept.

[MachoHombre]

Per the AMEX website ....YEP the AF is going up ...substantially!   Yikes!

Note the new Annual Fee

[notmyrealname23]

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@Mdowning30 wrote:

Just looked at the Bonvoy Bevy and it doesnt make sense that one has a $250 AF but has better multipliers than the Brilliant. The Bevy can beat out the Gold card.

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I don't peg a Marriott point = 1 AMEX MR. More like about 1 Marriott = .4 MR. So the AMEX Gold's 4x > Marriott Bevy 4x by quite a bit. Note that AMEX runs transfer bonuses to Marriott every so often where the transfer ratio > 1:1... so how can you rate a Marriot point as equal when a Membership Rewards point converts into 1.2 Marriott during a transfer bonus, plus MR goes into airlines at 1:1 when Marriott goes to airlines at 60k:25k?

Also, you need to spend $15k on the Bevy to get a 50k FNC. No annual certificate for renewal. That hurts the value proposition IMO.

[notmyrealname23]

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@MachoHombre wrote:

Per the AMEX website ....YEP the AF is going up ...substantially!   Yikes!

Note the new Annual Fee

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Apparently it goes up in any renewal after January 1st.

(cheers that MY renewal is in December)

I will probably renew this December but the AF is too rich for my blood come December 2023...

[Aim_High]

Thanks for this info @mkhan1093. I was a Gold Elite. I've been waiting on some updated stays so I logged into the app this morning. I noticed that I was bumped to Platinum Elite but didn't know why! 🤔.  Nice but unexpected benefit. The new AF is a shock  but it's still a great value card IMO.  Much more practical for me than an AMEX Platinum card. 

[GoTarHeels]

I've been waiting for this update! $650 is what everyone was expecting. Now to figure out which to keep between the Platinum and the Brilliant. Changing to a restaurant credit, along with the fee increase makes this a more difficult decision for me.

[CreditCuriosity]

I don't know why all AMEX cards these days being premium ones including the new AMEX Marriott 650 card does $25 or whatever a month dining credit.  Just give it all up front like CSR travel credit.  I hate how Amex spaces out "perks" that increase AF's over time vs all at once.  Just my pet peeve with all their premium cards.  Charge a large AF up front and hope that people forget to use said credits as some cards have many.