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Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...

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Red1Blue
Super Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@GApeachy wrote:


Hi @GApeachy I did not understand. Did you say Discover closed the secured cards during the pandemic? Some cards issued by some of the companies are partial secured not completely secured.


Yes, there were 4506-c requests sent out to secured card holders. Some were closed due to non-compliance and some closed due to not receiving info from IRS in time and some self-closed cuz the OP said "bite me". 


Fortunately I do not have Discover Secured Card and I did not have to worry about them.

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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...

Please, this isn't about Discover. 

@Red1Blue  you were told this about secured cards in your thread about WF denial. If you wish to continue discussing secured cards and AA, you can use that thread. 

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Red1Blue
Super Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@Remedios wrote:

Please, this isn't about Discover. 

@Red1Blue  you were told this about secured cards in your thread about WF denial. If you wish to continue discussing secured cards and AA, you can use that thread. 


Thanks @Remedios. I am sorry and  I do appreciate your advice. I'll put things to closure and move on with other things in life.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@Remedios wrote:

Please, this isn't about Discover. 

@Red1Blue  you were told this about secured cards in your thread about WF denial. If you wish to continue discussing secured cards and AA, you can use that thread. 


And, really, the major point of secured cards is to improve scores so that unsecured cards become available (otherwise, except for a few things like rental cars/hotels, may as well use cash).   So if potential closures of unsecured cards is so terrible, avoiding that with secured cards is either fairly pointless, or just a short-term win....

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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@Red1Blue wrote:

@Remedios wrote:

Please, this isn't about Discover. 

@Red1Blue  you were told this about secured cards in your thread about WF denial. If you wish to continue discussing secured cards and AA, you can use that thread. 


Thanks @Remedios. I am sorry and  I do appreciate your advice. I'll put things to closure and move on with other things in life.


 

I'm no stranger to derailing threads but something happened here that's upsetting to OP, so it's only fair this thread be contained to their issues without overarching AA  situations

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@BallBounces wrote:

I will post here saying Sync just closed all my open cards with them.  All of them.

 

That's 6 tradelines.  That's $50,800 in credit lines.  I wascarrying a whopping $1500 on those credit lines.......

 

A phone call to Sync was fruitless.... they could explain nothing.

 

Bad time considering my utl was under 9 and I will be mortgage shopping......

 

Too say I am displeased is an understantement.  I actually liked most of those cards, you know, when they existed.

 


Sorry that happened to you.  That place is out of control.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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ChargedUp
Senior Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...

Ahhh, Synch just doing what Synch does.

 

The thing I don't understand with Synch is that they sign up to back A LOT of store issued accounts, but seem to get pissy should someone happen to acquire and shop with store cards from a handful of individual retailers. Considering Synch likely backs north of 50 different card offerings, it's not too much of a stretch to think a typical mall rat could end up with 5-10 retail accounts that happen to be backed by Synch. It's the nature of the business that Synch has built, but they still seem to get freaked out when it happens.

 

The CLI's are another bewilderment. Call an offshore phone number and it seems most anyone can end up with a $30K Lowes CL, but other numbers and online requests get a big, fat nope! A few months later the right hand at Synch realizes that the left hand gave out that $30K line and suddenly goes into a fit while punching the "close everything!" button. Synch needs to get a handle on what they allow for CLI's in the first place instead of exercising the nuclear option once realizing they've given more than they feel comfortable with.

 

Part of me thinks that Synch is aggregating from too many information sources. Something suddenly doesn't agree between two or more of these data havesters and Synch gets cold feet fearing fraud or even bust out. Another theory I have is tied to their reliance on Vantage scoring 4, which seems to be less understood than FICO. Certain things that may cause a small blip in typical FICO 8 scoring can make a moderate to major wave in Vantage scoring, (and vice versa), especially with thinner files. 

 

Whatever the reason, my lone Synch account is a $10K PP Credit account. This is a hold over from when it was a hidden TL from Comenity. I haven't touched it in over a year, but Synch occasionally sends me an email saying "Hey!, remember us? You still have this account you can use!". While the 6 months/zero interest could be handy in the future, it's nothing I need at this time. If they close it, c'est la vie... This is why I heavily diversify my lenders.

 

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bigseegar
Established Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...

@BallBounces First, sorry for the closure I know that sucks and something in the back of all of our minds that have Sync cards. Next, curious as to how long you have had these cards and has to how often you requested CLI's (if at all). That info may help us/others as to insight into how Sync is thinking again.

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BallBounces
Valued Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@bigseegar wrote:

@BallBounces First, sorry for the closure I know that sucks and something in the back of all of our minds that have Sync cards. Next, curious as to how long you have had these cards and has to how often you requested CLI's (if at all). That info may help us/others as to insight into how Sync is thinking again.


Account ages vary from 13 months to 72 months. 

I absolutely mash the CLI button. In fact, I got a CLI on VZN a few weeks ago.   

Again I want to stress ... these are not dormant or unprofitable accounts for sync even if they didn't have huge balances when closed. Whatever algo they use for this closure is definitely written by an amateur.  

This is an area I have some familiarity with.  

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BallBounces
Valued Contributor

Re: Since the Synchrony account closure thread appears closed ...


@ChargedUp wrote:

Ahhh, Synch just doing what Synch does.

 

The thing I don't understand with Synch is that they sign up to back A LOT of store issued accounts, but seem to get pissy should someone happen to acquire and shop with store cards from a handful of individual retailers. Considering Synch likely backs north of 50 different card offerings, it's not too much of a stretch to think a typical mall rat could end up with 5-10 retail accounts that happen to be backed by Synch. It's the nature of the business that Synch has built, but they still seem to get freaked out when it happens.

 

The CLI's are another bewilderment. Call an offshore phone number and it seems most anyone can end up with a $30K Lowes CL, but other numbers and online requests get a big, fat nope! A few months later the right hand at Synch realizes that the left hand gave out that $30K line and suddenly goes into a fit while punching the "close everything!" button. Synch needs to get a handle on what they allow for CLI's in the first place instead of exercising the nuclear option once realizing they've given more than they feel comfortable with.

 

Part of me thinks that Synch is aggregating from too many information sources. Something suddenly doesn't agree between two or more of these data havesters and Synch gets cold feet fearing fraud or even bust out. Another theory I have is tied to their reliance on Vantage scoring 4, which seems to be less understood than FICO. Certain things that may cause a small blip in typical FICO 8 scoring can make a moderate to major wave in Vantage scoring, (and vice versa), especially with thinner files. 

 

Whatever the reason, my lone Synch account is a $10K PP Credit account. This is a hold over from when it was a hidden TL from Comenity. I haven't touched it in over a year, but Synch occasionally sends me an email saying "Hey!, remember us? You still have this account you can use!". While the 6 months/zero interest could be handy in the future, it's nothing I need at this time. If they close it, c'est la vie... This is why I heavily diversify my lenders.

 


Nailed it. Except the cest la vie part. 

Timing sucks when a mortgage is around the corner. 

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