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Capital One has its targeted market just like every other lender. They’ve been solid for me, during rebuild and after.
Once your profile has established a foundation, HP are not that big of deal. I’ve seen some complain that the 3 HP for one card is not worth it, yet will go on a app denial spree and think nothing of it (only upset that they didn’t get any of the 5 cards they were denied for, no mention of the 5+ wasted HP.)
I‘m only speculating, but I think a lot of the hate comes from not getting CLI because one “thinks” they deserve it. But I see that mindset with other cards/lenders as well.
Others may have simply outgrown them.
@Anonymous wrote:Capital One has its targeted market just like every other lender. They’ve been solid for me, during rebuild and after.
Once your profile has established a foundation, HP are not that big of deal. I’ve seen some complain that the 3 HP for one card is not worth it, yet will go on a app denial spree and think nothing of it (only upset that they didn’t get any of the 5 cards they were denied for, no mention of the 5+ wasted HP.)
I‘m only speculating, but I think a lot of the hate comes from not getting CLI because one “thinks” they deserve it. But I see that mindset with other cards/lenders as well.
+1 - This exactly ^^^.
@Anonymous, how much spending do you plan on doing with your Venture?
The cut-off for maximizing rewards is roughly $20k/year... if you're planning on spending less than that in a year you'd likely be better off with a Quicksilver (this is assuming you don't get the Venture's AF waived).
That said, assuming you don't have either yet you would probably want to apply for the Venture (in either case) for the sign-up bonus, then have it product changed to a Quicksilver before the first AF is due if your anticipated spending won't reach $20k in a year (that's what I did).
(This only addresses your desire to get a Venture... I'll leave the discussion of other options - like using the Fidelity Visa 2% for all non-category spending - to other people.)
I have a Cap One Quicksilver - a combination of upgraded Platinums and Quicksilvers over the years. CL has been stagnant for a long time, so I have put it in SD.
It was always one of my lowest earners. There are so many more rewarding cards out there if you want to manage a bunch of them. I have gotten nearly $2K in cash bonuses and SUBs in the past year, with only normal spend, and I ain't rich. Chase and Discover accounted for 70% of that.
That is worth putting a little effort into.
My experience with them reflects why people both love and dislike them. They were my first card, small limit but non-secured, when I was 18 and had no credit history. It took years to get to *almost* $1000. 16 years on, it's still at $4500 and "we don't see any upgrades that it's approved for. You could apply for a new card." Then, I apply for a newer card and it's rejected for them not seeing a long enough credit history. Thanks for letting me in the door, but I guess I remember our 16 years more than you do, Cap1.
:'(
You also have to remember that you're in a place where the credit users are a lot more savvy. Just do what works for you, and if cap1 works, then don't stop on account of how other people feel.
If you go back and look at threads 4 or 5 years ago you'll see Capital One referred to a lot as "Crap-1" then they started handing out $25k limits like candy on Halloween and the thread attitude changed to "we love Capital One" and they could do no wrong, well at least as reflected in those posts. Over the last year or 18 months, Capital One has tightened up a lot of limits, not so much adverse action or shutting down accounts (sans Comenity or Barclays) but they have gone back to lower starting limits, bucketing starter cards, and expanding their interest in subprime offerings with annual fees and low limits.
They did introduce their new "dining" card, but for fat-wallet (number of cards, not referring to wealthy clients) it is mostly a yawn or also-ran effort. Cap-1 also expanded their reach through co-opted" cards such as the GM Card (which I think is a great card, but that view is shared by very few on these forums) and Cabelas which I also have a high limit on and no issues.
Yes there are some that feel entitled and get "bucketed" by Cap-1 where their policy is to open a new account and take your chances rather than upgrade a proven customer/history and yes their customer service might as well be robots as they read off a script and have little if any power to work with a customer and offer much of anything as a solution. Cap-1's typical interest rates are high, their customer service is lacking, they tend to favor starter cards and subprime, and don't make much effort to upgrade their customer's products as that person upgrades their credit reports and history.
Personally, my wife and I have both closed any and all branded Cap-1 cards as not worth the effort, average rewards and failure to grow. As mentioned I have a GM Card and a Cabelas, both are fairly high limits and both I plan to keep - my wife has an older Kohls card which is also backed by Cap-1 and she plans on keeping that card too. I should also note that I have maintained a direct deposit checking account with Capital One for over 10 years. I could also give you "proof" that Cap-1 could not care less whether or not I do business with them, but it would be only one example and my comments are on how I see Cap-1's business model, not how they shunned a single customer.
Are there things to like about Cap-1 yes of course, and while they are into the subprime market, they practice fairly ethical lending, meaning they are not Credit-One or First Premier or their many "vulture" clones. On the other hand for those with higher credit scores or long credit histories with a choice of many-many lenders and cards, Capital One does not offer much in my opinion.
There are quite a few CapitalOne haters, but I'm not one of them. Cap1 let me back in after I burned them in my bankruptcy. I got a car loan with them for 1.74% and a credit card with 24k limit.
Their customer has been great to me. They did product changes with no problems. I started with a QuickSilver card that became a Venture card, and now it's a Savoy card.
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