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The end to Amex Airline GC workaround ?

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Re: The death of ALL Amex GC Airline reimbursements


@Shadowfactor wrote:

@K-in-Boston wrote:

@kdm31091 wrote:

Of course. They don't want to pay out for gift card purchases. It was always intended for airline incidentals. It's understandable if they want to enforce that.

 

People who are using the credit for gift cards maybe should rethink if they can justify the card(s) to begin with, IMO.


While I do tend to agree with you here, the issue is that the incidental credit can be difficult to use even for some people who are great matches for this card.  I have Delta chosen as my airline, of course, but since I'm a Medallion and have Delta cobranded card(s), a number of those incidentals won't work. 

- Food and beverage on board is quite rare since I usually buy a fare where it's free, or get upgraded to that class.

- Lounge entrance?  Not usually paying for guests.  Only way I can think of for me to legitimately use credit per Amex wording.

- Airfare is excluded, but like I said in above post, when it's been below $146 I have received credit.

- Upgrades are excluded, and have never triggered credit for me.  (works like a charm for Premium Rewards, CSR, and Altitude Reserve though)

- Same-day change fees?  Waived for me due to status.

- Baggage?  Already get 2 free bags for being a Medallion and having Delta cobranded card(s).  4 free bags flying in F.

- In-flight WiFi doesn't work since it's a 3rd party. 

 

So honestly, if it weren't for occasional lounge guests or things triggering that shouldn't, I would have no way to use the credit.


+1 This exactly.

 

While it wont make me run out and cancel any of my amex cards it does dampen the value I get from them.

 

As a frequent flyer with status, I dont pay for baggage or change fees. I wish you could use multiple cards to pay for Admirals Club access. This wouldnt be an issue if that was the case.


Get the AA Exec SUB and then add AUs making it a real cheap perk card.

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No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

So now that the AMEX GC hack for the incidental is going/gone away I am looking for other relevant ways to make it work.

 

Has anyone had experience using the AMEX credit for Frontier seats as a seperate purchase from the ticket trigger the incidental credit?

 

I know it "theoretically" should work, just looking for folks who actually have experience. Or other actual other ways to use this credit (not just food/internet on the flight, baggage (I dont pay baggage fees anyway), Delta lounge access (dont really fly Delta)). 

 

Thanks!




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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

Partial airfare seems to still work.

 

Apply gift cards to a ticket until the remaining balance is below/around 200/100. Pay this with amex plat/gold, and seems they will be reimbursed.

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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?


@FortifiedHM wrote:

Partial airfare seems to still work.

 

Apply gift cards to a ticket until the remaining balance is below/around 200/100. Pay this with amex plat/gold, and seems they will be reimbursed.


Good tip, thanks!




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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

As of now it seems that partial airfare is indeed working for delta. I can’t confirm about AA




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Message 65 of 91
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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

If it does work, then it would be a “reverse GC hack”. Buy the GC set first, then fill the blank Smiley Happy.

Still makes it difficult to use up $550 of airline credits in a year Smiley Happy
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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

Buy 90 dollar ticket and use 10 dollar gift card. Cancel ticket and get travel funds. Use travel funds and buy 190 dollar ticket cancel ticket and get travel funds. Before you know it you have $550 in travel funds.
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Message 67 of 91
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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

That sounds like a lot of work though. Not to mention the possible blowback from consistent cancelations?

Isn't it this type of behavior that is the cause of crackdowns and removal of CC benefits.






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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?


@Janus wrote:

That sounds like a lot of work though. Not to mention the possible blowback from consistent cancelations?

Isn't it this type of behavior that is the cause of crackdowns and removal of CC benefits.


Ten minutes of effort is too much work to get $550 of credits?  The time you spend on here is going to be a lot more than that and you don't get paid for it.  Amex isn't going to know you canceled anything.  They will think you bought a bunch of tickets.  Southwest doesn't care.  I had to do that to use 4 $100 gift cards on a ticket last year.  As the ticket was $319 and you can only use 3 forms of payment on a ticket so I either had to use $200 in gift cards and $119 in cash or just do this creative form of canceling and using travel funds.  

 

I bought $1800 of tickets and paid zero cents on them.  If you have that kind of money to throw away then more power to you.

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Re: No more AMEX airline GC hack - Confirm Frontier Seats Trigger AMEX Credit?

can you be more specific about the steps?

 

doesn't canceclling ticket return money to your card?

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