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Aim_High
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UMB Card Services Technology Updates

UMB Bank's "Card Services" division just implemented some long-overdue technology updates this week and I'm very pleased so far!

 

I've had my AFBA (Armed Forces Benefits Association) Visa card for over 23 years since March 1997.  It's my second-oldest continuously-open card.  It started out as a basic no-rewards Visa (which was much more common back then before issuers started offering more rewards) and was underwritten for AFBA by 5-Star Bank, which still operates in Colorado. 

 

A few years later, UMB (United Missouri Bank) acquired the credit account servicing from 5-Star Bank.  Confusing I know, right?  So my card says AFBA and 5-Star Bank but it's actually serviced by UMB!  After the card went to UMB, I started getting some simple credit union rewards program which earned about 1% in valuation but sometimes much less, depending on how you redeemed.  I had better options but they also gave me some good balance transfers when I needed them.  

 

UMB came out with their Simply Rewards program several years ago.  After talking with customer service, I was eventually able to convert my rewards program to the Simply Rewards, which pays 3 points (basically 3%) on gas, restaurants, fast food, groceries, and discount stores including Walmart and Target.   All those rewards are uncapped, so it's a pretty good rewards card from a smaller bank!   (This has been around long before I had 2% cards and long before the AOD FCU 3% Visa was released.)  The refreshes have kept it useful to me even as the card markets have evolved. 

 

Unfortunately, UMB's technology has not evolved, at least for their "Card Services" division that managed my card.  While I can't vouch for the technology their banking and UMB Simply Rewards cardholders had access to, my web login screen was reminescent of 1998 and there was actually no mobile app at all!  To access my account on my smart phone, I saved a mobile shortcut to the full website which was cumbersome.  Even worse, transactions sometimes didn't update for a few DAYS after I ran my card.  It really detracted from the card so it hasn't gotten a lot of attention.  But I wanted to keep it around due to the account age and the decent rewards it gets.

 

I was relieved to see a couple of weeks ago that UMB was updating their Card Services technology.  The website login is much more modern and there is actually a useful mobile app finally available. 

     

    My card ....

 

         2UMB_AFBA Visa.jpg

    

     UMB Bank-issued Simply Rewards card

          (that earns same rewards):

https://www.umb.com/wps/wcm/connect/umb2019/ecc18407-a116-430f-ae9b-d985123aa92e/UMB-T-Simply-Rewards-640x350.png?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=ROOTWORKSPACE.Z18_M84E04G0PGK180QQDL7PEB9TT0-ecc18407-a116-430f-ae9b-d985123aa92e-mX7E7w8

 

UMB_CardCenterDirect.jpg


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AllZero
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Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates

Thank you for sharing the information!
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Aim_High
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Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@AllZero wrote:
Thank you for sharing the information!

You're welcome! I know it probably has a narrow field of interest but thought I'd post about it anyway.

 

More about AFBA per the website www.afba.com.  Over the years, they've returned more from their focus on life insurance rather than diversifying into other banking products.  Five Star Bank still offers a Visa card issued through UMB Bank but AFBA membership is not required.  I believe I've heard UMB is geofenced but I'm not sure if Five Star Bank is geofenced, so they might be a back-door to the UMB Simply Rewards card. 

 

Our History

 

Founded to Serve Our Great Nation

 

The Armed Forces Benefit Association (AFBA) was established in 1947 in the basement of the Pentagon with the support of the General of the Army, Dwight D. Eisenhower to ease the strain on military members and their families. At the time, life insurance that would pay a death benefit if the member was killed in combat was not available.


Today, AFBA continues to honor its mission, in war and peace, for those who serve this great nation including our military, emergency first responders, government employees and contractors, and their families. We continue promoting member’s welfare through death benefits and other member benefits. AFBA is proud to serve nearly 650,000 members and has paid nearly $2 billion in death benefits since inception. AFBA death benefits are funded by life insurance underwritten by 5Star Life Insurance Company (“5Star Life”).

 

Access to life insurance and other non-life insurance member benefits
  • 24/7 coverage with NO war or terrorism exclusions.
  • Coverage on and off duty with no hazardous, line of duty or occupational restrictions.
  • Expedited death benefit.
  • Optional spouse and child coverage.
  • Survivor Scholarship (not available in Virginia).
  • Additional travel, health, and financial service discounts and programs. (None of these benefits are paid for by AFBA).

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kremonis
Regular Contributor

Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@Aim_High wrote:

@AllZero wrote:
Thank you for sharing the information!

You're welcome! I know it probably has a narrow field of interest but thought I'd post about it anyway.

 

More about AFBA per the website www.afba.com.  Over the years, they've returned more from their focus on life insurance rather than diversifying into other banking products.  Five Star Bank still offers a Visa card issued through UMB Bank but AFBA membership is not required.  I believe I've heard UMB is geofenced but I'm not sure if Five Star Bank is geofenced, so they might be a back-door to the UMB Simply Rewards card. 

Unfortunately, in the intervening months since you made this post, it seems they changed this card into another product here: https://creditcardlearnmore.com/11t3/index?ecdma-lc=4978&ecid=OTHE_25940 . There is a $150 SUB but the product's value is not as high as the original UMB card IMHO.

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JNA1
Valued Contributor

Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates

That UMB Simply Rewards is not a terrible card with 3% in that many categories. 
Are the points available as 1:1 cash back? 

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JeffMO
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Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@JNA1 wrote:

That UMB Simply Rewards is not a terrible card with 3% in that many categories. 
Are the points available as 1:1 cash back? 


That is correct, 1 dollar equals 1 point, unless it's one of the categories then its 3X






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Anonymous
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Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@kremonis wrote:

@Aim_High wrote:

@AllZero wrote:
Thank you for sharing the information!

You're welcome! I know it probably has a narrow field of interest but thought I'd post about it anyway.

 

More about AFBA per the website www.afba.com.  Over the years, they've returned more from their focus on life insurance rather than diversifying into other banking products.  Five Star Bank still offers a Visa card issued through UMB Bank but AFBA membership is not required.  I believe I've heard UMB is geofenced but I'm not sure if Five Star Bank is geofenced, so they might be a back-door to the UMB Simply Rewards card. 

Unfortunately, in the intervening months since you made this post, it seems they changed this card into another product here: https://creditcardlearnmore.com/11t3/index?ecdma-lc=4978&ecid=OTHE_25940 . There is a $150 SUB but the product's value is not as high as the original UMB card IMHO.


That's the wrong Five Star. 

https://www.5star.bank/personal/credit-cards.html

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@kremonis wrote:

Unfortunately, in the intervening months since you made this post, it seems they changed this card into another product here: https://creditcardlearnmore.com/11t3/index?ecdma-lc=4978&ecid=OTHE_25940 . There is a $150 SUB but the product's value is not as high as the original UMB card IMHO.


@kremonis, as mentioned upthread, wrong link/bank.  The 5 Star [UMB] card is featured below.

 

https://www.5star.bank/personal/credit-cards.html

 

The one you referenced is issued by ELAN (which Aim_High discusses on a separate topic).

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@FinStar wrote:

@kremonis wrote:

Unfortunately, in the intervening months since you made this post, it seems they changed this card into another product here: https://creditcardlearnmore.com/11t3/index?ecdma-lc=4978&ecid=OTHE_25940 . There is a $150 SUB but the product's value is not as high as the original UMB card IMHO.


@kremonis, as mentioned upthread, wrong link/bank.  The 5 Star [UMB] card is featured below.

 

https://www.5star.bank/personal/credit-cards.html

 

The one you referenced is issued by ELAN (which Aim_High discusses on a separate topic).


Interesting.  I was a little confused at first when I saw the link and thought maybe 5-Star Bank changed their card agent to the Elan products.  Looking at the Deposit Accounts website, there are actually THREE similar-sounding banks in the US.  Five-Star Bank in New York, Five-Star Bank in California, and then 5-Star (with the number) Bank in Colorado.  The latter one is the one that AFBA partnered with.

 

I agree that the UMB card product is superior for an overall rewards card product with uncapped 3 points (effectively 3%) on gas, dining, and groceries.   However, the Elan-backed Max Cash Rewards which is very similar to the US Bank Cash+ is a very popular 5%-category card and works especially well in-tandem with other cash back cards.  These cards are a little different from some other 5% cards like Discover or Freedom in that you can choose your categories, and they offer some unique and useful categories like home utilities. 


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* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
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kremonis
Regular Contributor

Re: UMB Card Services Technology Updates


@Anonymous wrote:

@kremonis wrote:

@Aim_High wrote:

@AllZero wrote:
Thank you for sharing the information!

You're welcome! I know it probably has a narrow field of interest but thought I'd post about it anyway.

 

More about AFBA per the website www.afba.com.  Over the years, they've returned more from their focus on life insurance rather than diversifying into other banking products.  Five Star Bank still offers a Visa card issued through UMB Bank but AFBA membership is not required.  I believe I've heard UMB is geofenced but I'm not sure if Five Star Bank is geofenced, so they might be a back-door to the UMB Simply Rewards card. 

Unfortunately, in the intervening months since you made this post, it seems they changed this card into another product here: https://creditcardlearnmore.com/11t3/index?ecdma-lc=4978&ecid=OTHE_25940 . There is a $150 SUB but the product's value is not as high as the original UMB card IMHO.


That's the wrong Five Star. 

https://www.5star.bank/personal/credit-cards.html


@Anonymous

My bad.

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