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atarvuzdar
Established Contributor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question


@DaveInAZ wrote:

@atarvuzdar wrote:

My upgrade came in the mail yesterday. Honestly don't think I need or want the upgrade and, so, it's not worth the new account ding to me. How do I turn down the upgrade?


Would it be a new account? I would think they would just convert the existing account with the original open date.

 

I haven't received an invite or mailing, but I would be inclined to turn it down as I don't see any advantage - same rewards 1% WM store, 2% WM/Murphy gas (none around for me), 3% walmart.com. Of course be used anywhere MC is accepted and not just Wamart/Sams, but I have better reward cards for that.


It would be a new account. Synchrony upgraded my JCP to a JCP MC awhile back and, while I got a CLI when I activated the MC, my score dipped from the new account reporting. Not really interested in another dip, don't really use my Walmart card that much as it is, and I get better benefits from my other cards (to echo what you said). 

FICO 8: EQ 846 / TU 836 / EX 832
AMEX Platinum / AMEX Gold / BofA Cash Rewards Visa Sig $99,900 / Chase Freedom Flex $54,400 / Citi Double Cash $21,700 / AMEX EveryDay $30,000 / Gemini $25,000 / Chase Freedom Unlimited $25,500 / Chase SP $15,000
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rmduhon
Valued Contributor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

@atarvuzdar according to the ipgarede letter hubby received in Jan/Feb the date to decline by was March 10th (early March at any rate) so I'm not sure how it would work to decline it now. Good luck though.
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AlexisMachine
Established Member

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

It's my understanding that this will not report as a new card so you won't get dinged.  I chatted with a rep and that's what I was told.  I'm hoping that is truth.  

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UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

Many people have reported that Synchrony card upgrades result in a brand new account reporting (no history is brought over) but as with many things credit it could be YMMV.  There aren't too many recent data points, and things are always changing.

 

That being said, if you're not wanting to chance having a new account report (for example, you're getting ready for a mortgage) I probably wouldn't risk it.

 

(Also notable is that some people have reported having a brand-new account report even when having a lost Synchrony card replaced (!), so they are 'iffy' at best.)

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rmduhon
Valued Contributor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

Hubby's Sam's card with a chip never arrived so the sent it again. It did create a new account, but it had the entire history of the first one. Same thing with my Carecredit account. So it definitely a YMMV thing.
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atarvuzdar
Established Contributor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question


@rmduhon wrote:
@atarvuzdar according to the ipgarede letter hubby received in Jan/Feb the date to decline by was March 10th (early March at any rate) so I'm not sure how it would work to decline it now. Good luck though.

Thank you for the info!

 

 

FICO 8: EQ 846 / TU 836 / EX 832
AMEX Platinum / AMEX Gold / BofA Cash Rewards Visa Sig $99,900 / Chase Freedom Flex $54,400 / Citi Double Cash $21,700 / AMEX EveryDay $30,000 / Gemini $25,000 / Chase Freedom Unlimited $25,500 / Chase SP $15,000
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TiggerDat
Valued Contributor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question


@AlexisMachine wrote:

It's my understanding that this will not report as a new card so you won't get dinged.  I chatted with a rep and that's what I was told.  I'm hoping that is truth.  


It WILL report as a new account!  I have checked on this 3 times since I declined the invitaiton and they ignored that.  I was told a few things, no need to worry the account history will stay the same; your history with us will stay the same, but the credit bureau will report a new account opening date.

 

You can write a letter to the credit bureau to have the old account removed.  How can I do such a thing since I am not the bank?  

 

No you will keep the original opening date.  Are you sure since I was told otherwise by the last agent?  Ooops, sorry you were given the wrong information.  By you or by the other representative?  It is unfortunate that you got wrong information.  By you or the last representative?  It is not our intention to give out wrong information, sorry that it happened.  Did you give me the wrong information or the other representative?  The other representative did not know all the facts, you will retain the account history with us.  With you and the credit bureau?  With us and we report the correct information to them.  Is the correct information that this is a new account or an upgrade?  This upgrade is a great way to use your card at other locations than just Walmart.  That is nice, but could you please answer my question?  Yes I have answered your question, you account will report when you activate the card.  With the original opening date of the original Walmart card be the date used?  Yes, the date you activate your card it will reflect the date of the account opening.  The original opening date or the date the card is activated?  The original activation date of the card when you opened the account on that date it is activated.  So I activate it today and it will report a new account today?  The account date it the original activation date of the account.  Of the original account or the Mastercard account?  Yes, of the original card we sent you.  The MasterCard account, not the Walmart store card right?  Every card we send out is activated on the date you activate it and it always reports that day.  It reports that date as the beginning of the card history with the credit bureau, so it reports a new account, the MasterCard account as that date and the Walmart card as closed as of that date?  Correct the Walmart account is closed.  And the new account is considered a new account to the credit bureau?  New cards are always reported to the credit bureau.  Can you answer my question using just the choice of yes or no?  Yes we can answer your question with yes or no and always will assist you with the best information and a clear answer if we can do so without the need to use too many words that could be misleading whenever we possibly can.  Yes and only yes, or no and only no, it is a new account which reports being new the day the account is activated and the old account is closed and reported as closed as of that day?  Your account will be opened and report when you activate it and the old account will no longer be able to be used.  Have I answered all of your questions?  You have answered none of my questions and it seems like you are trying to actually avoid answering my actual question.  What is your actual question?

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.....
Always follow these rules: Only take a HP for a new account. Always use the best rewards card for that reward category. Don't close a card unless you know you really should. Never use more than 35% of a credit limit. Recon as much and as best you can. Use the introductory period to the best advantage. Get the signup bonus. Whenever possible PIF or balance transfer so you pay less in interest. Never give an excellent rating when it is actually the norm. Always look for a discount as more is always better.
Always accept candy from strangers because they have the best candy or from people you know have good candy.
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

Oh my... I would've cussed that idiot out!!!!

I wouldn't even activate the card if I could afford it... Would call in everyday to ask a succession of agents to compare stories... You didn't ask for an upgrade did you?
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TiggerDat
Valued Contributor

Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

I didn't ask for an upgrade.  I didn't want the upgrade knowing that it would be a new account entirely.  I rejected the upgrade by calling the number.  I called up and asked about the new account situation and rejected the upgrade.  I think the upgrade is not necessary for me since I get better rewards for any other card in my wallet or at the very least the same rewards, although I do believe that I do get better rewards on each card I have.  I rejected the upgrade the last time they offered it to me.

 

The only way I would take this upgrade is if they changed their silly policy.  They do say that because it is a new type of account that it requires them to post a new account with a new account opening date.  It is strange that they choose words that don't have the same meaning to the rest of us as it does to them.  It does not require a new account opening date.  

 

I think many people are misled by what they say and the offer.  I would love for people who were told that it was not a new starting date to file with the CFPB over it.  I would if I didn't know better.  I would also if there weren't recorded conversations already on file with them that proved I know the reality.  Basically, as long as they didn't know I know, then I would try and call in and ask and get the wrong answer and then contest it directly with the CFPB first and also with them.  Trust me, as many times that I have written the EO at Capital One and BofA, I do mean that.

 

Don't fall for the hype and don't take the upgrade unless you don't have a rewards card in your wallet that already has 1% cash back.  The regular Walmart card works just fine if you have even a CapOne card which gives you 1.5%.  You get the same benefits with the Walmart card.  

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.....
Always follow these rules: Only take a HP for a new account. Always use the best rewards card for that reward category. Don't close a card unless you know you really should. Never use more than 35% of a credit limit. Recon as much and as best you can. Use the introductory period to the best advantage. Get the signup bonus. Whenever possible PIF or balance transfer so you pay less in interest. Never give an excellent rating when it is actually the norm. Always look for a discount as more is always better.
Always accept candy from strangers because they have the best candy or from people you know have good candy.
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Anonymous
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Re: Walmart MC upgrade question

+1

So, is this a MasterCard upgrade or a store card to MC upgrade? I ask because I haven't heard a peep from them, then again, I already have the MC...
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