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Why is JCB Murakai not popular?

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ray8806
Regular Contributor

Why is JCB Murakai not popular?

Is there a catch or something that I don't see?

I see that 3% cash back, only a $35 AF(annual fee plus membership fee), only 13.9% APR, and a Discover card. To me, that seems better than Citi DC at 2%, CapOne QS at 1.5%. There has to be something that I'm not realizing, anyone have any thoughts on this card?

I personally think it looks a little ugly, but it seems like it does give a lot of cash back.
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joedtx
Valued Contributor

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?


@ray8806 wrote:
Is there a catch or something that I don't see?

I see that 3% cash back, only a $35 AF(annual fee plus membership fee), only 13.9% APR, and a Discover card. To me, that seems better than Citi DC at 2%, CapOne QS at 1.5%. There has to be something that I'm not realizing, anyone have any thoughts on this card?

I personally think it looks a little ugly, but it seems like it does give a lot of cash back.

Ahhh the prized card from Japan Credit Bank it is a great to get in with them since they are a Prime bank but they are a strict conservative lender with limted acceptance in the US. But if you hold their card thats awesome!  

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enharu
Super Contributor

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?

Few reasons. You have to be a resident of either California or Hawaii to qualify. Not sure if they opened up to more states.

They are also very very conservative. Application method is also very traditional. You fill up an app manually, send it in, and an underwriter will look at it. There's no automated computer approvals.

It's on the discover network, which means acceptance is limited. Out of all the 4 major payment networks, this is the least accepted.

Rewards redemption cannot be done online. You have to call in.
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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?


@joedtx wrote:

@ray8806 wrote:
Is there a catch or something that I don't see?

I see that 3% cash back, only a $35 AF(annual fee plus membership fee), only 13.9% APR, and a Discover card. To me, that seems better than Citi DC at 2%, CapOne QS at 1.5%. There has to be something that I'm not realizing, anyone have any thoughts on this card?

I personally think it looks a little ugly, but it seems like it does give a lot of cash back.

Ahhh the prized card from Japan Credit Bank it is a great to get in with them since they are a Prime bank but they are a strict conservative lender with limted acceptance in the US. But if you hold their card thats awesome!  


+1

 

The geographical restrictions are pretty much the reason.  As per their application disclosure...Currently, JCBUSA has licenses and/or permissions to issue credit cards to U.S. residents in the States of California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and New York.

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uswala
Senior Contributor

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?


@enharu wrote:
Few reasons. You have to be a resident of either California or Hawaii to qualify. Not sure if they opened up to more states.

They are also very very conservative. Application method is also very traditional. You fill up an app manually, send it in, and an underwriter will look at it. There's no automated computer approvals.

It's on the discover network, which means acceptance is limited. Out of all the 4 major payment networks, this is the least accepted.

Rewards redemption cannot be done online. You have to call in.

Their website says applicants must be a resident of the state of California, Nevada, Oregon or Washington

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enharu
Super Contributor

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?

@uswala, thanks for the clarification. It's been a while since I looked at the website and I was too lazy to look it up again lol
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Anonymous
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Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?


@joedtx wrote:

@ray8806 wrote:
Is there a catch or something that I don't see?

I see that 3% cash back, only a $35 AF(annual fee plus membership fee), only 13.9% APR, and a Discover card. To me, that seems better than Citi DC at 2%, CapOne QS at 1.5%. There has to be something that I'm not realizing, anyone have any thoughts on this card?

I personally think it looks a little ugly, but it seems like it does give a lot of cash back.

Ahhh the prized card from Japan Credit Bank it is a great to get in with them since they are a Prime bank but they are a strict conservative lender with limted acceptance in the US. But if you hold their card thats awesome!  


Mostly because it's limited in issuing, geographically.

 

If I lived in Hawaii, I'd get this one, lol.

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longtimelurker
Epic Contributor

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?


@enharu wrote:
Few reasons. You have to be a resident of either California or Hawaii to qualify. Not sure if they opened up to more states.

They are also very very conservative. Application method is also very traditional. You fill up an app manually, send it in, and an underwriter will look at it. There's no automated computer approvals.

It's on the discover network, which means acceptance is limited. Out of all the 4 major payment networks, this is the least accepted.

Rewards redemption cannot be done online. You have to call in.

In the US, Amex is the least accepted of the 4, discover is close to V/MC.  See, from http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2014/08/28/discover-credit-card-has-risen-in-rankings-and-acceptanc...

 

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yfan
Valued Contributor

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?

Simple. Because the cashback is "up to" 3%, not flat 3%. It's 1% on spends up to $1K, 2% on spends between 1K and 3K and 3% above 3K. 

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Kenny
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Why is JCB Murakai not popular?


@yfan wrote:

Simple. Because the cashback is "up to" 3%, not flat 3%. It's 1% on spends up to $1K, 2% on spends between 1K and 3K and 3% above 3K. 


I would respectfully disagree with this answer. To some people 3k is a single purchase.  I would think the general reasons have all been listed by now that are more applicable/probable.

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