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@lg8302ch wrote:
@peaceonearth wrote:
@lg8302ch wrote:
@peaceonearth wrote:
@subwaysandwich wrote:
I have a FICO score of 730 (without micromanaging) and I find that I spend too much when I have credit cards (not that I'm in debt or anything). Would I still have good FICO if I were to cancel all my cards? Thanks!+1
I had more money when I was only using my Debit card and no credit cards.
This is the part I do not understand. It is just the method of payment that changed for me not the spending On the contrary with cards I get some cash back with debit plain nothing...above statement is a mystery to me.
edit: make a budget, stay on that budget and then payment method does not change anything
Even these days, most Debit cards have no Rewards. A plain no gain..
That's the only I love is the Miles, my average Monthly spending on credit cards goes up to $30,000.00 and I make sure it is paid off in full each Month.
I do believe in Credit but frankly, Credit sometime can be a headache.
So far no lender prevents the use of credit cards in the same way as debit cards...so simply get the rewards and do not pay attention to the word CREDIT ...think of it as DEBIT and get these rewards !
Good point.
@azguy13 wrote:
@youdontkillmoney wrote:
@subwaysandwich wrote:
I have a FICO score of 730 (without micromanaging) and I find that I spend too much when I have credit cards (not that I'm in debt or anything). Would I still have good FICO if I were to cancel all my cards? Thanks!^^^^
without going into the merits of canceling cards, and if it's something you are intent on doing, all other things equal, cancel the newest ones first and keep the oldest ones since average age of accounts (AAofA) affects your credit score. You said you wanted to cancel all cards, but I'd keep two since 1 if none and 2 is 1.
Closed accounts are calculated into the AAoA for 10 years. It does not matter which OP cancels first. 10 Years from now they may disappear but that will hardly mean anything if they cancel all their cards anyways. The smart thing is to keep non-AF cards open and use them periodically but it sounds like OP does not want that, even if the cards are cut up.
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That's a good point to cancel non annual fee cards first if they do not add value.
In terms of AAofA, my advice was to keep two cc's, and those two cc's should be the oldest ones all other things equal, since older cc's are accretive to one's FICO. If the case is canceling ALL credit cards, then I'd agree AAoA becomes a moot point.
@subwaysandwich wrote:
Would I still have good FICO if I were to cancel all my cards?
What non-credit card accounts do you have? Even with other accounts, not in the long run. General advice is 2-3 cards for optimal scoring. Always keep this in mind:
http://www.myfico.com/crediteducation/whatsinyourscore.aspx
Payment history will be retained as long as your closed accounts continue to report. Utilization will take an immediate hit and it's the next biggest slice. AAoA (length of credit history) should be fine until the closed accounts start to drop off. Types of credit will also take a hit as closed accounts fall off.
You're better off working on improving your restraint unless you have no need for credit. If you need to close everything aside from 2-3 cards then do so. However, keep in mind that losing the available credit on the cards you close will impact your utilization. Do the math before and after to determine the impact and to help you in your decision making.
@subwaysandwich wrote:
I have a FICO score of 730 (without micromanaging) and I find that I spend too much when I have credit cards (not that I'm in debt or anything). Would I still have good FICO if I were to cancel all my cards? Thanks!
Many say "Control your credit. Don't let it control you," but for some this is easier said then done. I'm glad that you are recognizing this issue BEFORE getting yourself into a high amount of debt. If it were me,( it appears that I may be headed down this same path). I would set up auto pay for a monthly bill (cable, electricity, phone, etc.) on each of my cards and cut the cards up. I would pay each card in full monthly before the statement cuts with the exception of 1. I suggest letting a balance report for 1 of the cards than pay it in full. With this scenario, I believe you would be doing what is in the best interest for your credit profile and yourself.
@Dw4250 wrote:
@peaceonearth wrote:
+1
I had more money when I was only using my Debit card and no credit cards.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I have found this has been true for me (albeit with a small sample size). I track everything on Quicken, including cash purchases.
Since my app spree 3 months ago and shift to using my credit cards to pay for basically everything except my mortgage, my overall spending has increased about 5.5%. I figured this out by comparing my avg monthly spending from July 2013- Feb 2014 (before cards) to March 2014- current. Part of that increase is due to trying to meet minimum spends on various cards.
I will be curious to see if this pattern (+5%) holds. So far the sample size is way too small to make any definitive statement. I PIF everything so I am attempting to use my CCs similarly to a debit card and rack up the rewards.
Also true for me as well.
@eagle2013 wrote:
@Dw4250 wrote:
@peaceonearth wrote:
+1
I had more money when I was only using my Debit card and no credit cards.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I have found this has been true for me (albeit with a small sample size). I track everything on Quicken, including cash purchases.
Since my app spree 3 months ago and shift to using my credit cards to pay for basically everything except my mortgage, my overall spending has increased about 5.5%. I figured this out by comparing my avg monthly spending from July 2013- Feb 2014 (before cards) to March 2014- current. Part of that increase is due to trying to meet minimum spends on various cards.
I will be curious to see if this pattern (+5%) holds. So far the sample size is way too small to make any definitive statement. I PIF everything so I am attempting to use my CCs similarly to a debit card and rack up the rewards.Also true for me as well.
Eagle- I have read this is a true statement for many, which is why I am tracking my spending very closely (and will adjust if needed). The credit card companies aren't dumb; they realize people are more apt to be looser with their spending using credit cards v. cash/checking account. Whoever the cog was in the banking machine who thought of "reward" points/miles/cash ought to be a rich man/woman. It's absolute genius.
While 5% extra spending may not seem like much, say your monthly spending is ~ $5000/month using cash (this is about what I spend). Add 5% to that...$5250. Multiply that extra $250/month by 12...that's an extra $3000/year that could be going to savings, IRA account, whatever but are instead going to cc purchases. So it's not an insignificant amount of money.
Ultimately, my goal is to stay "even" using the cards while racking up the rewards. But if I find that I am consistently spending 5% or more above cash spending, I may ramp down my card usage as well (pretty sure I will not earn $3000/year in rewards...lol!)
@subwaysandwich wrote:
I have a FICO score of 730 (without micromanaging) and I find that I spend too much when I have credit cards (not that I'm in debt or anything). Would I still have good FICO if I were to cancel all my cards? Thanks!
OP, as others have already said, no, don't cancel all of them, bad idea.
With that said, I think you should keep your oldest credit card, put recurring bills on it, then SD it. Cancel the rest. Then open up a charge card and a LOC tied to your checking account. First of all, it's a hassle to book a room or rent a car with a debit card, so you want something to carry with you in emergencies. That's where the charge card comes in. You won't be as tempted to overspend on a charge card since you know you can't just extend payments later on (and be sure to reject all offers for Pay Over Time). And with a LOC, you only access it when you run out of money in the bank (assuming you're not tempted to use the convenience checks).
That's 3 tradelines to maintain a good FICO with minimal temptation for impulse spending.
I am in process of canceling all CC's that won't grow with me which includes CapOne, GE and Chase. I will still have 5 CC's at the moment, but don't care about score dip because I just paid off my vehicle and in process of paying cash for house in 4 years. I will probably never need a credit score again for a loan. I know I wouldn't never take out a mortgage.