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redpat
Senior Contributor

Re: credit card diversification

Use both cards and request CLIs and have those grow and has your score increases get the card you really want.  Discover would be the most likely to give you CLI based on usage.  I had one that grow to 25.5k in 11 months before I closed it.

Personal Cards: Amex Plat | Amex Delta Res | CSR | Citi AA Exec Business Cards: Ink+ | Amex BGR
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Anonymous
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Re: credit card diversification

Ok thanks for the info, but why did you close the card?  I thought one should not close a card/  Also, did you request the increases or did they just keep raising the cl as you handled the card properly?

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Anonymous
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Re: credit card diversification

Neither discover or capitol one were my first card. I had a care credit for 5 or 6 years prior to capitol one. Then my discover amex and chase hyatt in an app spree. Then a Chase Sapphire reserve for 100k in points. March 1 (my capitol one is 2 years old that day) im planning on a Chase Ink Preferred for another 80k in ur points. Then in august my hyatt discover and amex turn 2 also. I sure i already have enough cards...
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SomewhereIn505
Valued Contributor

Re: credit card diversification

You’ve been given some great advice MM! Allow me to add my 2 cents...

 

It’s very YMMV, but Disco might give you a CLI around the 3 or 6 month mark.  

 

With your line on Cap One, I’m assuming your enrolled in their credit steps program. Use and pay it to have no more than 30% utilization at statement time. I know for me, I was offered $250 steps CLI but instead I received $500. Make sure your managing your Cap One within the program rules to get your CLI on time. Any late payments will push the date out further. 

 

Think about what you want out of your next card - lower APR, points rewards, cash rewards. Then I would research the issuer and see which deal is good for you. Several times I got anxious and got cards with rewards I really didn’t want or need. 

 

Once you have that figured out, see if they have a credit score card option for non-members. They usually offer you some those of credit score tracking and you might get offers that way. You could also check “see if I have an offer” aka prequal to see if any offers comes up. Just come back here to see how reliable issuer is with the prequal. General rule of thumb is anything with a wide range apr is bad. Single apr or small range is likely approval but this isn’t always accurate. 

 

Issuers also have rules. Another thing you should know. Chase 5/24 is one. There are others out there.

 

Good Luck!


3/16/18 FICO9 TU-700 EQ-669 EX-716
6/26/18 FICO9 TU-750, EQ-672, EX-789

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Anonymous
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Re: credit card diversification

I wanted an Amex card. I read that they require a FICO score of 690. A FICO score required a six month credit history. I got a CapOne Platinum, aged it to six month, checked my FICO score in September. I could not believe my FICO was 727, I immediately applied for and got the BCE. I was sooo shocked. It still makes me smile... it was such a big step for me.

 

I found myFICO after getting Amex, there is so much info here... I wish I'd known of it when I first started my credit journey. I've read here that  many people get approved with FICO scores in the mid six hundreds. The one constant seems to be 6mo history. 

 

I got a Chase FU in January, lower limit than Amex, but it's another step. ime, Amex was easier to get... if it what you want, go for it.

 


@Anonymouswrote:

Cause I hear about getting one from Chase or Amex or even one of the more prestigious cards would be the next step.   However, what you are telling me that as long as one matches your needs and it is managed properly it really doesn't matter.  That's interesting and contrary to what I read.  Thanks for the information.


 

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Anonymous
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Thanks to all responding with some sage advice.  It looks like my job now is to age the 2 cards I have and work them within the limits that was stated.  In the mean time, I will think about what is important to me in a card and investigate along the way for when the time comes to add 2 more cards to my tool box.  These 2 cards will be, hopefully, the most beneficial for me to use and my new go to cards.  Thanks all.  This is advice that everyone should encounter, but unfortunately not enough know the inner wrokings and too many good people pay the price for the lack of education.

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redpat
Senior Contributor

Re: credit card diversification


@Anonymouswrote:

Ok thanks for the info, but why did you close the card?  I thought one should not close a card/  Also, did you request the increases or did they just keep raising the cl as you handled the card properly?


Because I wasn’t going to use the card anymore, I requested increases.  I picked Amex MR, Chase UR, Amex SPG and American Airlines reward programs.  A closed card stays on your credit report for 10 years.  Never be afraid to close a card you don’t want anymore.

 

I have also also closed a Capital one Venture, citi prestige and chase freedom unlimited all w/ high limits but I moved some of my chase limit to my CSR and took a HP to move some of my limit to my CIti AA exec.  I never have to worry about my AAOA because it’s well over 10 years.

 

If you keep applying for cards that could hurt your AAOA and decrease your credit score.  

Personal Cards: Amex Plat | Amex Delta Res | CSR | Citi AA Exec Business Cards: Ink+ | Amex BGR
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AverageJoesCredit
Legendary Contributor

Re: credit card diversification

You may not need a card from every network but i believe diversification in your credit card portfolio is important. In this i mean you dont want to have all your eggs in one basket. Many clamor for Chase cards for their own wants and needs but if all your cards are Chase and they close those accounts on you for any reason, you would be left with nothing.

Having a couple different lenders is a good thing. I agree , research the cards you want that will work for your spend and lifestyle. When the time is right app for it dont be afraid of the hp. If its Chase cards that offer what you need then you need to be mindful of 5/24 of course.

Closing cards will always be a personal choice . Remember , here , many get cards for bonuses then move on to the next. Again personal choice. You just need to decide how you view credit cards and do whats in your best interest.
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Anonymous
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Re: credit card diversification

Great information, I truly appreciate it.  I am a little green on the lingo.  What does 5/24 refer to?  Also, what does "HP" mean in this statement "When the time is right app for it dont be afraid of the hp."  Thanks for taking the time to educate.

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SomewhereIn505
Valued Contributor

Re: credit card diversification


@Anonymouswrote:

Great information, I truly appreciate it.  I am a little green on the lingo.  What does 5/24 refer to?  Also, what does "HP" mean in this statement "When the time is right app for it dont be afraid of the hp."  Thanks for taking the time to educate.


5/24 - Chase has this rule with the majority of their cards. They will not approve you if you have more than 5 inquiries within 24 months on the CB (credit bureau) they pull. That is why if you want to get in them, you need to be careful. Other lenders have other rules. That is why you want to plan out for your needs and what fits best. 

 

HP - hard pull. Typically hard pulls are on your report for 24 months (2 years). Supposedly they become less impactful after a year. There are also lenders whom are inquiry sensitive. This means not a lot of HPs within 6 months or another specific hard time. 

 

Time is right app for it don’t be afraid of HP - This is my personal interpretation of whomever posted this . Before I app anything, I do my research (mostly here) to see what are the current approval trends and how my own datapoints (scores utility, number of inquiries, etc) align with them, do I pre-qualify on their website. Any way I can be knowledgeable and have a greater chance of getting my application approved is worth a HP. 


3/16/18 FICO9 TU-700 EQ-669 EX-716
6/26/18 FICO9 TU-750, EQ-672, EX-789

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