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@demi wrote:Having grown up in the bay area, and living houses that my parents paid 22 thousand for that are now worth 1.5 million (not they made any money on it), you end up with a certain mentality that real estate is always going to go up....that and the over all price of what 20% down would be, and it almost becomes a necessity to be able to use some type of creative financing. Face it, most times in the last 30 years your house, in the Bay Area and most of California are going to be increased in value.That said, what peeves me is the whole concept that the banks are not helping people out. I keep hearing about people who are trying to get thru to their banks before it becomes critical, and the banks are blowing them off until they are already in default. Makes no sense to me...don't you think it would be to the banks benefit to refinance instead of foreclosure?