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How Doctors Are Pushing Medical Credit Cards on Patients

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IsambardPrince
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How Doctors Are Pushing Medical Credit Cards on Patients

How Doctors Are Pushing Medical Credit Cards on Patients

 

Time covers another story about crooked dentists putting a "grab bag of crap you don't need" on Synchrony "CareCredit" cards.

 

I wonder if this dental chain is related to Aspen. The whole "throw a $300 toothbrush in the bag and put it on their new credit card" trick is one that Aspen uses after bill cramming you for thousands of dollars in unnecessary procedures.

 

Aspen tried to get my spouse's insurance benefits maxed out and said their "care plan" would have been more than $8,000 out of pocket. I ran it by two dentists I trust and they both said that half of what Aspen was trying to bill us was unnecessary and improper.

 

Promising patients that they don't owe money today and interest is a "problem for next year" is a way to help sell questionable and expensive products and "services" that they may not actually need. It also makes them less likely to question if they can do what they need for much less money elsewhere.

 

My favorite part was the one where at least one patient got fraudulently billed by a dental office in California for a procedure she did not even have and then turned over to "Cavalry", a collection agency, with interest, for over $4000.

 

"Sonia Romero, a nursing-home worker from Los Angeles, went to House Dental in South Gate, Calif., in September 2021 to see about replacing some of her missing teeth. She says her dental provider told her to sign some forms to determine her eligibility for a payment plan that would help cover the procedure’s costs, but never mentioned Synchrony or CareCredit. Romero says she signed the forms but ultimately elected not to have the procedure done. So she was surprised when, a few months later, she received a bill from CareCredit for $3,437.

 

The provider had signed her up for CareCredit and charged her for a procedure she didn’t have—and she says that the provider would not remedy the mistake.

 

House Dental could not be reached by phone for comment for this story; multiple emailed requests for comment went unreturned.

 

Romero did not pay the bill, because she never even had the procedure. She thought the ordeal was over until September 2024, when she learned she was being sued by Cavalry SPV I LLC, a debt buyer, for unpaid debt. Cavalry says Romero now owes $4,231.82. She plans to contest the debt in Los Angeles court in July 2025. 'I was vulnerable because I’m embarrassed about my teeth,' Romero says, 'and they took advantage of it.'"

 

My personal opinion is that it probably wasn't a mistake, it was probably just flat out fraud. A lot of these dental chains are not honest businesses. If they start asking you to give them your Social Security number and sign forms to screen you for loan products, I would go on high alert.

 

Ideally, you won't go to a dentist unless you're insured, they're in network, and you have the money for the co-pay. And if it's not an emergency you might consider running their treatment plan by other dentists first.

 

If it's something you can't afford, consider dental hygeine schools or dental colleges where you can get the work done much cheaper, and they're not in there trying to defraud you or put a $300 toothbrush in a bag on the way out and slap everything on a 40% interest credit card.

 

This Synchrony card appears to be sucking another $4 billion or so, annually, in interest payments, out of healthcare consumers in America, which already face exorbitant prices, which is why doctors, dentists, and vets are waving the stupid card in your face. This product is clearly not an answer for people struggling to afford healthcare.

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JoeRockhead
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Re: How Doctors Are Pushing Medical Credit Cards on Patients

Dental insurance in the U.S. has always been, and continues to be severely inadequate where major procedures are concerned. Synchrony's Care Credit touts 6, 12 and 18 month 0% terms which attracts customers and is great considering it can be offered throughout the life of the card. Unlike the majority of traditional new credit card offers where you might get 0% for 12 to 21 months, then that's it... 

 

The problem is that the terms are chosen by the provider, which isn't disclosed to the consumer. The provider can offer the 0% terms, or they can choose to offer for example 12 months @7.99%... or 14.99% or whatever is available on their additional Synchrony menu at the time. The other problem is that whatever term is offered, if the patient fails to make all the payments within the specified "promotional purchase" term, the interest (depending on what interest tier the customer is in with Synchrony) can be up to 29.99% on the original balance, and not the remaining balance. Their penalty interest rate for defaults can be as high as 39.99%. 

 

Synchrony, like many other financial products such as Affirm etc... use the lore of putting a business's products and/or services in more customers hands via different financing options. Unfortunately, there are always going to be people running businesses who are without integrity who prey on people's wants, needs, desires, and vulnerabilities. 

 

The best kind of consumer, is an educated one.  

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Patient957
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In my view, there's nothing inherently wrong with these loans. 

 

The issue is the shady and fraudulent practices often used by doctors' offices to sell them.

 

 

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IsambardPrince
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Re: How Doctors Are Pushing Medical Credit Cards on Patients


@Patient957 wrote:

In my view, there's nothing inherently wrong with these loans. 

 

The issue is the shady and fraudulent practices often used by doctors' offices to sell them.

 

 


Yes. It's apparently not clear at all what you're agreeing to, which should be the first big red flag, and healthcare and vet offices are hyperaggressive at selling these which indicates to me that Synchrony might be paying them commissions. I was at the vet's office with my cat and I was just going to pay them with money that I had and they start going into a hard sales pitch for CareCredit, and I just said "Is that some sort of a loan? I have enough money to live for over two years without further income in my savings account, why would you presume I need a loan?"

 

It's not a bad vet, I like the vet, but the CareCredit sales pressure is just awful and it's like, everywhere you go they just assume you're another peasant that they can sell a loan with an agreement that goes on for miles and was written by lawyers and is full of God knows what.

 

Maybe 80% really do pay them off before they owe interest, so does that mean that the roughly $1 billion in profits every quarter that Synchrony is pulling in, is off of 20% who essentially have no money, probably didn't understand what they agreed to, couldn't pay the loan off in time, based on Synchrony paying healthcare providers to pitch them(?), and selling debt to outfits like Cavalry after the time bomb goes off (retroactive interest to the date of service if you don't pay it off in time)?

 

I just focus on avoiding loans and watching what I pay. Maybe that means delaying optional services for a while, like invisalign. The dentist wanted to sell me invisalign for like $6000, but if I wait until next year, I get an $1800 allowance and a network discount from Delta Dental. So why am I going to put $6,000 on a stinking CareCredit when I can just wait and get the insurance discount and pay like half of that?

 

Sometimes it's even small stuff like vets trying to trim your cat's nails for $50 and stuffing it on a CareCredit along with the other $1,000.

 

Or the people who really got the dentist to do something (probably without even making sure it was medically necessary), and then got a "$300 toothbrush" whatever that is, that they never agreed to, in a "goodie bag" on the way out the door.

 

Where do you even get a $300 toothbrush? Where'd the dentist get it? Did they walk over to Walmart and pay $50 and put $300 on your CareCredit? Isn't this also fraud?

 

I got an Oral B iO toothbrush at Walmart. It's their latest model and it has all the features and it was just over $100. The Philips Sonicare is like $50-70 I think. A cheap-o Oral B 1000 I think still goes for about $40-50.

 

But any of these options is only marginally more effective than using a manual toothbrush. It's really about two things. Being lazy while you brush (guilty) and getting about 1-2% more of the plaque while you're in there (according to a cochrane review).

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