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WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

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WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

Happy Sunday Everyone,

 

The Wall Street Journal decided to do some investigating on their

own to find out just how good or bad the consumer lending environment

really is for mortgages/HELOCs, autos, credit cards and student loans. 

 

Click the link below and read the results of their research. Enjoy!

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122981133491224225.html

 

CanDo

 

"The right attitude is everything" 

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Re: WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

I dunno on their research. Kinda wondering what their subject group demographics might have been. If they just polled a random group of people, it's quitely likely that the responders with lower scores/lower DPs might have either fudged their scores/DPs or most refused to answer period.

 

I'm only questioning that because they're essentially saying that if you don't have a score of above, say, 680, you can't get a mortgage loan unless you're plunking down 10-20% down payment. The Mortgage forums here are rife with people who've gotten approved with lower scores and less DP.

But then, LOL (sorta), I'm coming from the "lower score (660)/less DP (roughly 7%)" group. MY MMV. Smiley Wink

At least, I'm hoping so!!!

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Re: WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

Hey Wonderin,

 

Thanks for the feedback. 

 

There are always exceptions to every rule or set

of qualifications.

 

All things being equal, when it comes to getting a new

mortgage and qualifying for the lowest rates,  the lower a

person's FICO score the more positive compensating factors

are needed to be approved. Things like paying bills on time,

no negative credit report entries within the last 12 months,

down payment money, payment history of previous mortgage, etc.

These factors are important in any application, but they are even

more so when your scores aren't as high as you'd like them to be. 

 

I've also found that credit unions and federal savings banks like USAA

are more forgiving, and their best rates are not unreachable. For example,

Navy Fed is offering 4.875% on 30-year conventional loans with 10-20%

down, and they are well known for taking a "comprehensive" approach to

qualifying Members for loans. Most banks, however, are looking for FICO

scores of 740+ before they'll even talk to you about rates that low.

 

If you qualify for FHA or VA financing, 30-yr fixed rates are 5.25% with 0 pts.

FICO scores don't determine your eligibility...just what interest rate you'll pay. 

 

And if you need a jumbo loan (even with a 740 FICO) the best bank rates

right now are 7-7.5% for 30-year conventional, while CUs like Navy Fed

are offering the same loans for 5%.

 

So I guess it's like anything else you buy. It pays to do your homework

and shop around before making a final decision. But your point is well

taken. It would have been nice to know on which demographic group

the WSJ based their findings. 

 

Thanks again for the feedback!

 

CanDo

 

"The right attitude is everything" 

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Re: WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

First off, Cando, I REALLY hope I was criticizing your role in the cite!! You've been nothing but an awesome contributor here. And IMHO, that's saying a LOT. Smiley Happy

My beef was more along the lines of the fact that WSJ, despite their rep at being a no-nonsense non-biased "expert," and taking a more or less scientific approach, they didn't break down the demographics of the polled group. Nor did they allow for any derivations like +/- X%. In not doing so, I feel that they undermined the effectiveness of the article.

I mean, if person X views and believes it to be a real determination of their chances of getting a mortgage approved and doesn't apply out of fear of rejection, they've even MORE undermined their ability to be accurate next "poll-time." Especially since the criteria to qualify for a loan, as I understand it, isn't decided by such rote, rigorous criteria. At least, not as I understand it.

But then, DH's a scientist and has taught me, by osmosis, to be suspicious of any data evaluation that doesn't allow for odd variables. :/

In fact, you oughta see him question our kids' report card grade percentages!!! Smiley Wink
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Re: WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

Thanks for the compliment, Wonderin.

Your kind words are greatly appreciated.

 

I understand your point more clearly now.

But I do believe that the WSJ collected and

analyzed all of the empirical data you're talking

about. They just decided not to include it in their

findings, and instead, just gave their readership the

bottom line results we need to make a loan decision.

What score do we need, how much should we put down,

what rate will be get, etc..

 

Like you, I'm a "nuts and bolts" person who enjoys going thru

the scientific data. But not everyone is like us. Having said that,

if you wanted to dig a little deeper, you could always shoot WSJ

an email to request the specifics. But then again, your point is

that they should have included this information in the article in

the first place.......

 

Thanks again for the compliment. It's nice to feel appreciated.

 

CanDo

 

"The right attitude is everything" 

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Re: WSJ: So What Do You Have to Do For A Loan???

Oh, believe me, CanDo ... you are MUCH appreciated!! Smiley Happy

But yes, that was my point! I mean, they should have included that information in their article. Otherwise, how is the average person supposed to know the variables? From reading that article, I would only be able to assume that unless I have 740+ credit and/or more than 20% to plunk down, I may as well not even bother pursuing the "American Dream" (though, I'd have to imagine it's the European, Middle Eastern, etc .. Dream).

I could only see that as being horribly disheartening to the average person here at MyFICO. Yannow? Smiley Sad

And I'M not like that. I like my info diluted and spoon-fed, I assure you! The more others think for me, the less work my poor tired ol' brain has to do, the less I can goof up. Win-win for everyone! Smiley Wink
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