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Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

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rgate88
Regular Contributor

Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

I've spent the last few years rebuilding my credit profile, getting my student loans in good standing and paying down card debt. However, right after I was approved for the Chase WOH card ($17.3k limit), 54 derog markings hit only my TransUnion account and tanked my score (almost 90 points back down to 650). Looking at my report, they all seem to be 6-7 years ago, but they haven't been on here for quite some time. Anyone else have this happen? It's absolutely tanked my score and I'm afraid it's going to adversely affect some of my cards. TIA

CO Platinum - $500; CO Quicksilver - $2,000; Marcus GM BuyPower - $700; Target MC - $9,000; Chase Amazon Prime - $17,300; PNC Core - $27,000; Citi DoubleCash - $8,300 - AmEx Everyday - $2,500 (was $20,000); Citi Simplicity - $25,500; Chase World of Hyatt - $17,300; PayPal LOC - $10,000; PNC Cash Rewards - $36,000; U.S. Bank Altitude Go - $15,000; AmEx Platinum - NPSL ($7,800 POT); Elan Max Cash (Alliance CU) - $25,000; Alliance CU LOC - $2,000; BMO Harris Cash Back (Was Bank of the West Cash Back) - $3,000; (Closed Block-Fi - $15,000 RIP); Wells Fargo Autograph Visa - $10,000; Chase Freedom Flex - $20,300; Venmo - $15,000; AllTru LOC - $10,000


Business Trade Lines - Chase Ink Cash - $4,000 (original limit $19,600); Chase Ink Preferred - $10,000; AmEx BBP - $5,500; Hilton Honors Business - $5,000; FNBO Evergreen Business - $15,000; Elan Business Visa (Alliance CU) - $20,000; Citi Business AAdvantage Platinum Select - $16,000; Marcus GM Business - $2,500; Kabbage LOC - $9,500; Marriott Bonvoy Business - $14,600; Barclays AAdvantage Aviator WE Business - $14,000; IHG Rewards Premier Business - $5,000; Delta Platinum Business - $16,400; Edward Jones Business (Elan) - $2,000


Total CLI - $395,900
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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

Is it a federal student loan?

If so, certain federal student loans are totally exempt from the exclusion of derogs at the normal FCRA exclusion period of 7 years until the student loan is repaid.

 

Additionally, certain federal student loans also have mandatory requirement under the Higher Education Act that derogs be reported.

It is possible that the creditor just realized that they were not being reported as required......

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rgate88
Regular Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

They were federal loans. All have now been consolidated into a few loans and have been current for the last 18 months. I messaged the lender to review the situation and hopefully we can come to a sufficient resolution. 

CO Platinum - $500; CO Quicksilver - $2,000; Marcus GM BuyPower - $700; Target MC - $9,000; Chase Amazon Prime - $17,300; PNC Core - $27,000; Citi DoubleCash - $8,300 - AmEx Everyday - $2,500 (was $20,000); Citi Simplicity - $25,500; Chase World of Hyatt - $17,300; PayPal LOC - $10,000; PNC Cash Rewards - $36,000; U.S. Bank Altitude Go - $15,000; AmEx Platinum - NPSL ($7,800 POT); Elan Max Cash (Alliance CU) - $25,000; Alliance CU LOC - $2,000; BMO Harris Cash Back (Was Bank of the West Cash Back) - $3,000; (Closed Block-Fi - $15,000 RIP); Wells Fargo Autograph Visa - $10,000; Chase Freedom Flex - $20,300; Venmo - $15,000; AllTru LOC - $10,000


Business Trade Lines - Chase Ink Cash - $4,000 (original limit $19,600); Chase Ink Preferred - $10,000; AmEx BBP - $5,500; Hilton Honors Business - $5,000; FNBO Evergreen Business - $15,000; Elan Business Visa (Alliance CU) - $20,000; Citi Business AAdvantage Platinum Select - $16,000; Marcus GM Business - $2,500; Kabbage LOC - $9,500; Marriott Bonvoy Business - $14,600; Barclays AAdvantage Aviator WE Business - $14,000; IHG Rewards Premier Business - $5,000; Delta Platinum Business - $16,400; Edward Jones Business (Elan) - $2,000


Total CLI - $395,900
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hawkins
Frequent Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

Ouch that hurts just reading it. Keep an eye on your Chase account. If they see that my guess is they might close your new WOH card. Never for certain but just watch them. As to the student loans damm those loan companies are a pain the ass. Mine just disappeared the other day from my Equifax report caused a 22 point loss. This is not the first time either. It will reappear at some point again like the last 4 times creates havoc on scores. I’m not even late on them either. So I feel part of your pain. Good luck and with hope maybe it will do a disappearing act ya never know.
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rgate88
Regular Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

I'm reaching out to the loan company and seeing if there's anything that can be done. I'm gonna fight hard to get this done. Worst comes to worst, they should hopefully fall off next year as it'll hit 7 years, but no telling if they'll try and hold it against me for another 3 or 4 years. 

CO Platinum - $500; CO Quicksilver - $2,000; Marcus GM BuyPower - $700; Target MC - $9,000; Chase Amazon Prime - $17,300; PNC Core - $27,000; Citi DoubleCash - $8,300 - AmEx Everyday - $2,500 (was $20,000); Citi Simplicity - $25,500; Chase World of Hyatt - $17,300; PayPal LOC - $10,000; PNC Cash Rewards - $36,000; U.S. Bank Altitude Go - $15,000; AmEx Platinum - NPSL ($7,800 POT); Elan Max Cash (Alliance CU) - $25,000; Alliance CU LOC - $2,000; BMO Harris Cash Back (Was Bank of the West Cash Back) - $3,000; (Closed Block-Fi - $15,000 RIP); Wells Fargo Autograph Visa - $10,000; Chase Freedom Flex - $20,300; Venmo - $15,000; AllTru LOC - $10,000


Business Trade Lines - Chase Ink Cash - $4,000 (original limit $19,600); Chase Ink Preferred - $10,000; AmEx BBP - $5,500; Hilton Honors Business - $5,000; FNBO Evergreen Business - $15,000; Elan Business Visa (Alliance CU) - $20,000; Citi Business AAdvantage Platinum Select - $16,000; Marcus GM Business - $2,500; Kabbage LOC - $9,500; Marriott Bonvoy Business - $14,600; Barclays AAdvantage Aviator WE Business - $14,000; IHG Rewards Premier Business - $5,000; Delta Platinum Business - $16,400; Edward Jones Business (Elan) - $2,000


Total CLI - $395,900
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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

The Higher Education Act includes sections that specifically exempt certain types of federal student loans from the excusion provisions of derogs under the FCRA until the loan is totally repaid.  

Thus, if it is such a federal student loan, worst case will not be that they will become excluded at the normal 7 year period, but that they will remain until the loan is repaid.

 

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rgate88
Regular Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return


@RobertEG wrote:

The Higher Education Act includes sections that specifically exempt certain types of federal student loans from the excusion provisions of derogs under the FCRA until the loan is totally repaid.  

Thus, if it is such a federal student loan, worst case will not be that they will become excluded at the normal 7 year period, but that they will remain until the loan is repaid.

 


I ran my CR report and their status is "Current: Paid or Paying as Agreed." So they are reported as paid, so I'm hoping I can work some magic.

CO Platinum - $500; CO Quicksilver - $2,000; Marcus GM BuyPower - $700; Target MC - $9,000; Chase Amazon Prime - $17,300; PNC Core - $27,000; Citi DoubleCash - $8,300 - AmEx Everyday - $2,500 (was $20,000); Citi Simplicity - $25,500; Chase World of Hyatt - $17,300; PayPal LOC - $10,000; PNC Cash Rewards - $36,000; U.S. Bank Altitude Go - $15,000; AmEx Platinum - NPSL ($7,800 POT); Elan Max Cash (Alliance CU) - $25,000; Alliance CU LOC - $2,000; BMO Harris Cash Back (Was Bank of the West Cash Back) - $3,000; (Closed Block-Fi - $15,000 RIP); Wells Fargo Autograph Visa - $10,000; Chase Freedom Flex - $20,300; Venmo - $15,000; AllTru LOC - $10,000


Business Trade Lines - Chase Ink Cash - $4,000 (original limit $19,600); Chase Ink Preferred - $10,000; AmEx BBP - $5,500; Hilton Honors Business - $5,000; FNBO Evergreen Business - $15,000; Elan Business Visa (Alliance CU) - $20,000; Citi Business AAdvantage Platinum Select - $16,000; Marcus GM Business - $2,500; Kabbage LOC - $9,500; Marriott Bonvoy Business - $14,600; Barclays AAdvantage Aviator WE Business - $14,000; IHG Rewards Premier Business - $5,000; Delta Platinum Business - $16,400; Edward Jones Business (Elan) - $2,000


Total CLI - $395,900
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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

Paying as agreed means you are not delinquent.

It does not mean that the entire loan balance has been repaid.

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rgate88
Regular Contributor

Re: Derog Student Loan Marks Make a Surprise Return

Well there's a happy ending to this luckily. All of a sudden my TU score shot back up almost 90 points this week, so I guess they fell off. I'll be keeping an eye out on this, but all seems to be right with the world.

 

Sometimes the good guys win one Smiley Happy

CO Platinum - $500; CO Quicksilver - $2,000; Marcus GM BuyPower - $700; Target MC - $9,000; Chase Amazon Prime - $17,300; PNC Core - $27,000; Citi DoubleCash - $8,300 - AmEx Everyday - $2,500 (was $20,000); Citi Simplicity - $25,500; Chase World of Hyatt - $17,300; PayPal LOC - $10,000; PNC Cash Rewards - $36,000; U.S. Bank Altitude Go - $15,000; AmEx Platinum - NPSL ($7,800 POT); Elan Max Cash (Alliance CU) - $25,000; Alliance CU LOC - $2,000; BMO Harris Cash Back (Was Bank of the West Cash Back) - $3,000; (Closed Block-Fi - $15,000 RIP); Wells Fargo Autograph Visa - $10,000; Chase Freedom Flex - $20,300; Venmo - $15,000; AllTru LOC - $10,000


Business Trade Lines - Chase Ink Cash - $4,000 (original limit $19,600); Chase Ink Preferred - $10,000; AmEx BBP - $5,500; Hilton Honors Business - $5,000; FNBO Evergreen Business - $15,000; Elan Business Visa (Alliance CU) - $20,000; Citi Business AAdvantage Platinum Select - $16,000; Marcus GM Business - $2,500; Kabbage LOC - $9,500; Marriott Bonvoy Business - $14,600; Barclays AAdvantage Aviator WE Business - $14,000; IHG Rewards Premier Business - $5,000; Delta Platinum Business - $16,400; Edward Jones Business (Elan) - $2,000


Total CLI - $395,900
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