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The "Which Banks Pull Which Report For Apps" list

credit_is_crack
Valued Contributor

The "Which Banks Pull Which Report For Apps" list

UPDATED 03/06/21

 

This post is built to help others see which reports banks are pulling based on where you are -- all the data on here comes from MyFICO'rs posts. It is also aimed at Personal Credit Cards (VS/MC/DC/AX), but it does include 2 store card exceptions (Macy's & Target). 

 

  • GRID #1 = This list identifies lists out which CRA was pulled for specific states. These DP's are collected from approvals shared on this site. As more members share state DP's, we'll update the grid.
  • GRID #2 = This list identifies which version of the credit report we're seeing pulled with consistent regularity (Fico 8, Fico 9, or even mortgage scores like EX2, EQ5, etc.).

This is a very YMMV situation. 

 

Several other factors apply and vary by lender (inquiry/new account sensitive, income, forgiveness for prior behavior, total available credit, age of report, credit seeking behavior, the state you live in, etc.). This is just to share what they are most likely to pull based on reported data points.

 

CALL-OUTS:

  • Citi Bank: Most new apps/CLI's use EQ, but some cards (like reports from Prestige) reflect they will pull EX instead. Some members (like folks brand new to a Citi relationship, as a sample) have reported regular double-pulls, but this has not applied to everyone. When that happens be prepared for any combo (EQ/TU , EQ/EX, EX/TU)
  • Chase Bank: Some users have reported that double-pulls are consistent, but some have also reported only single-pulls for new account. CLI's are single pulls. Expect a double pull, EQ & EX seem to be the preferred combo, but if you get prequalified via Credit Journey, TU seems to be the primary CRA pulled and it gets paired with EQ or EX. TU seems to be the least preferred CRA for Chase when Credit Journey is not involved.  
  • Comenity Bank: This bank has 2 core flavors of cards ("majors" vs "minors" if you will). Majors could be viewed as co-branded cards that offer a Visa/MC option. When applying for one of these, EX is the go-to. For store-cards that do not have the Visa/MC option, EQ is the go-to. No reports were found where Comenity processed a double-pull or pulled TU
  • Navy FCU: Navy uses TU9 for new account HPs. Historically they exclusivly used EQ9 for CLI requests, but approval threads showcase Navy is transitioning from EQ9 to TU9 for CLI's. If a HP is required, plan that it could be a 60 TU9/40 EQ9 shot 
  • Synchrony Bank: Synchrony historically has exclusively pulled TU, but a handful of reports from 2019 reflected they pulled EX. Their newest addition (Verizon Credit Card) has shown zero consistency with which CRA they pull. Some members report a single pull, double pull and a triple pull. When they pull a single and/or double, there does not seem to be a "primary" or "preferred" CRA.  
  • Wells Fargo: EX tends to be the 'go-to' CRA for this bank. Some card types (like Propel) have been known to pull EX + EQ. Reports have been noted that if someone applied with all CRA's frozen, when the applicant called back in to move forward they'd be advised to unlock EQ only. This is an extreme YMMV case

HOW TO READ IT:

  • Some banks are religiously consistent with which CRA (and version) they pull. If that bank row has a green check-mark, then this is one of those "religiously consistent"' pullers
  • Some banks bounce between 2 CRA's, but which one they pull seems to vary based on the state you reside along with the specific card you applied for. These are marked with the yellow exclamation points - it just means "prepare that it could be either one of the bureau's with an exclamation point"
  • If you see a bank listed with a green check-mark and yellow exclamation points, it means that a large part of the time they lean towards the green check-mark, but at times they will fall to a secondary report (locked reports, the bank getting errors when trying to pull their primary option, split credit profiles, state residency, etc)

 

GRID #1 - WHICH REPORT IS PULLED BASED ON YOUR STATE?

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GRID #2 - WHICH BANK USES WHICH REPORT VERSION?

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adamseve
Established Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps


@credit_is_crack wrote:

So I went on a mini-spree recently and the one thing I noticed is that more and more banks appear to have migrated to using the FICO 9 version instead of FICO 8. Just wanted to share in case anyone was curious (as I know a lot of us apply based on our best foot). This is YMMV - some folks see auto increases from F8 < F9, some see auto decreases. Not sure what's driving the divide though. I'm referring to the core FICO 8 & 9 score, not the bankcard or specialized versions.

 

As a sample my scores as of todays report (03/18/19):

EXPERIAN -- FICO8 (765) < FICO9 (798)

EQUIFAX -- FICO8 (764) < FICO9 (797)

TRANS UNION -- FICO8 (783) < FICO9 (800)

 

My "Price you pay" letter descriptions from apps over last 8-10 months. Some were for new apps, some for CLI's or mergers (Navy is known to use TU for new apps and then EQ for CLIs, I'm sure a few others do that too). 

 

  • Bank of America, TU F8 (new app)
  • Amex, EX F8 (new app & SP CLI)
  • Citibank, EQ F8 (SP CLI)
  • Chase, EX F8 (new app)
  • USAA, EX F2 (HP CLI) - get with it USAA!
  • PNC Bank, EX F9 (new app)
  • US Bank, TU F9 (new app)
  • Synovus, EQ F9 (new app)
  • Navy FCU, EQ F9 (HP CLI)
  • PenFed FCU, EQ F9 (SP CLI)
  • FNBO, EX F9 (SP CLI)

Great information!  Thanks for sharing!

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Meanmchine
Super Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps

Thx CIC

 

Wells Fargo uses EX09 for checking/savings.  Dunno about credit tho


3/2016 EX 644 CK-TU 642 CK-EQ 660 WalMart- 671.
>12/2020 CCT EX 821 TU 826 EQ 840


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- One forty-five caliber automatic
- Two boxes of ammunition
- Four days' concentrated emergency rations
- One drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine,
vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills
- One miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible
- One hundred dollars in rubles
- One hundred dollars in gold
- Nine packs of chewing gum
- One issue of prophylactics
- Three lipsticks
- Three pair of nylon stockings.

Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff."

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credit_is_crack
Valued Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps


@Meanmchine wrote:

Thx CIC

 

Wells Fargo uses EX09 for checking/savings.  Dunno about credit tho


Anybody know who Wells Fargo uses for credit card apps? Could be EX09 or TU 09 but don't want to assume

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credit_is_crack
Valued Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps

Updated to include Fifth-Third Bank

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JR_TX
Valued Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps


@credit_is_crack wrote:

@Meanmchine wrote:

Thx CIC

 

Wells Fargo uses EX09 for checking/savings.  Dunno about credit tho


Anybody know who Wells Fargo uses for credit card apps? Could be EX09 or TU 09 but don't want to assume

 

They Pulled my EX9 when they approved me Sep of  last year 2018.


 

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USER1056689
New Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps

FICO EX9. It also gives me my FICO EX9 in my account. They have been using it for several years.
FICO8 Scores:
EX: 686 – 4/1/2019
TU: 708 – 4/1/2019
EQ: 712 – 4/1/2019



FICO9 Scores:
EX: 682 – 4/1/2019
TU: 710 – 4/1/2019
EQ: 729 – 4/1/2019


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credit_is_crack
Valued Contributor

Re: Banks using FICO8 vs FICO9 for Apps


@JR_TX wrote:

@credit_is_crack wrote:

@Meanmchine wrote:

Thx CIC

 

Wells Fargo uses EX09 for checking/savings.  Dunno about credit tho


Anybody know who Wells Fargo uses for credit card apps? Could be EX09 or TU 09 but don't want to assume

 

They Pulled my EX9 when they approved me Sep of  last year 2018.


 


Thanks for the info @JR_TX and @FicoGuy2019. I added it to the list

 
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Caught750
Valued Contributor

Re: List of FICO Scores Banks Are Using For Apps/CLIs?

Awesome information for a single thread!
PERSONAL; Amex | AOD FCU | BBVA | BECU | Capital 1 | Chase | Citi | Discover | Key | NFCU | PSECU | SECU MD | Synchrony | US Bank
BUSINESS; Amex | Citi
F8 Current F8s ~750 Best Ever F8s ~775
TOTAL PERSONAL CL > $350k and TCL > $365k
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RickNATL
Established Contributor

Re: List of FICO Scores Banks Are Using For Apps/CLIs?

Very helpful....thank u

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