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Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

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AllZero
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?


@Anonymous wrote:
Sorry meant to say 2018!!! Whoops!

Side note: you’re so helpful! Thanks so much again; it’s so comforting to hear from people that know so much about this stuff!

You're welcome. Everything I know, I've read here from myFICO and learned from it's members and contributors.

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AllZero
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?


@Anonymous wrote:
This is what my gut was saying too. We don’t neeeed to do the pull this week because the closing date is 1/15. LO said we need to order the appraisal by the 18th at the latest so he said to pull not later than Monday. Do you by any chance know what the penalty might be, ballpark? Is it in single digits usually or hard to predict?

It's hard to predict. Score penalty is profile specific. It appears you have a reasonably high MMS 750/760. I can only guesstimate it would be a single digit penalty, say 1-9 points? It's a vague answer. Answering without knowing the answer. Smiley Embarassed

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Anonymous
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

Thank you, this is so helpful. One last question to ask you if I can: if that hard pull won’t drop my score for 30 days during the deduping period, and we are scheduled to close 1/15, what is the reason for your recommendation to wait until AZEO is in effect?
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AllZero
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?


@Anonymous wrote:
Thank you, this is so helpful. One last question to ask you if I can: if that hard pull won’t drop my score for 30 days during the deduping period, and we are scheduled to close 1/15, what is the reason for your recommendation to wait until AZEO is in effect?

It was not knowing your credit profile. AZEO is recommended to optimize your score. Raising it as high as possible, squeezing every last available point out. Also, to allow a score buffer in case you are outside that dedupe time frame.

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Anonymous
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

Got it! That makes total sense. Thank you again so very much!
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AllZero
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

Good luck. Hope to read of your follow up. Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

Thank you! I definitely plan on posting the results to help others out. My current mortgage FICO scores are EQ 724, TU 726, EX 767. EQ and TU both captured balances that I stupidly let report so I’m going to see if AZEO and brining the balance on an interest free period card from $4000/9100 to $1500/10600 (got a small soft pull CLI through discover) will help to bring middle to 740. It will be interesting to see and I’ll post the results.
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AllZero
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

If you can get a better rate at 740, that would be great.

 

44% individual utilization is costing you say ~5 points. How is your aggregate utilization? Mortgage FICO scores definitely likes AZEO. If you have a lot of revolving accounts reporting a balance say 1/3 or more, you're being penalized. Your reports will update by Monday?

 

These are the aggregate scoring thresholds:

8.9%, 28.9%, 48.9%, 68.9%, 88.9%

 

Depending on profile. These are the individual scoring thresholds:

28.9%, 48.9%, 68.9%, 88.9%

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AllZero
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

I had to refresh my memory. 14, 30, 45 days depending on the scoring model.

See Mortgage inquiry questions (not run of the mill)

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Anonymous
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Re: Do your FICO mortgage scores drop after the initial hard pull by a mortgage lender?

Deleting this because it was a duplicate post. Wonder how I can ask the mods to delete?

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