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Emergency Mortgage Question

Hi all, I don't want to make this as long as it really should be. 

 

We are going through a FEMA buyout on our current house/mortgage due to hurricane harvey being the 7th flood. The delays from working on the government's timeline has put us in a serious situation. We were under contract and in order to save it, and all of our earnest money, we signed a temp lease with the seller of our new house. We were approved through UW and all set, and then months and months of delays has caused our credit reports to expire so LO said he needed to run again. We did not expect that and have been financially strapped due to unrelated issues (gaining custody of 2 kids and still paying $1000/mo in child support being one of the major issues which as of today is now resolved, and paying utilities on two houses), so we had been relying on our existing credit to help us stay afloat. It turned out that my husband had two scores (TU & EX) drop to 618 (we needed 620), and EQ much lower like 580. So, in our rebuilding experience previously, 2 points was NOT a difficult jump therefore we thought this would a simple resoultion. 

 

LO's simulator said we needed to pay off our 2 lowest balances, which we did. Then there was an issue with the quick rescore and/or EX not reporting the balance as 0. That took a week to sort out. He ran our credit again, and neither 618 score moved. So then LO's simulator told us to pay down a chase CC by half, which we did as well. Today LO got a notification that they were updated so he ran the reports again. TU went to 625, and instead of EX increasing, it dropped to 605. LO escalated with factual data and just heard back: apparently today, November 1st, EX changed their scoring model which caused the score drop. 

We have been under contract since June, and the seller has been extremely understanding about our buyout situation not going as planned and it being beyond our control. But we've been extending our lease for 3 months now. Tomorrow we will have to ask for another extension.

 

At this point we are so defeated. 

We are running out of time, money, and options. I don't know that I have 100% faith in LO's simulator seeing as how the first payoffs didnt do anything. His utilization is high, but we cant realistically pay everything off right now. What would be a good first step...paying all down a bit, or trying to get one paid off completely?

 

Please help! So desperate Smiley Sad

 

ETA additional info for him only as my #s are still good

His take home is ~$1400/week and I don't know if this is relevant but every few months he may have to go offshore for a week or two, in which those checks wind up being ~$3200/week.

 

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freedom2809.843000
amazon2078.492200
slate588.991200
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kay jewelers04800
acu01000
home depot0500

 

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CreditInspired
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

We need more info.

Number of CCs, including loans.
CLs and outstanding balances.
Loans and outstanding balances.
Vehicle(s) monthly payment.
Income

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Anonymous
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

Good luck with everything and sorry for your unfortunate circumstances. Hopefully one of our knowledgeable contributors chimes in here shortly. Helping the thread stay fresh.

 

Goodluck again,

JC

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Anonymous
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question


@CreditInspired wrote:
We need more info.

Number of CCs, including loans.
CLs and outstanding balances.
Loans and outstanding balances.
Vehicle(s) monthly payment.
Income

Edited original post with requested info...thank you!

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CreditInspired
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

OP

As you said, these are extremely high UTs. 4 cards are maxed out so your monthly bills must be pretty high. And then there are the vehicles and loan.

You said what your husband’s take home pay, but what is both your total monthly gross incomes—not net. What is the total minimum payment for all your CCs? And then there’s the $1K child support.

Honestly, I don’t want to sound dismal but the DTI ratio may be a problem even if your scores were higher.

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Anonymous
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

Thank you for your response. Our DTI is only an issue if we cant get his middle score back up to 620 from 605.
The child support just stopped, Monday will be the first paycheck without garnishment.
The total of his minimum payments including cars is about 1600/mo. My own cards <$300/mo
His projected gross for this year is $115,000
Mine $41,000
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homeloanexpert
Established Contributor

Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

Not enough info to help you. What is your current DTI? Or answer these questions:

 

PITI payment?

Sales price?

Loan Type?

Branch Manager - Specializing in FHA, VA, USDA, Conventional, Jumbo, Portfolio and Non-QM Loan Products.
Message 7 of 25
Anonymous
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

$2600/mo on our closing estimate
SP $312000
FHA

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DollyLama
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

How much in funds do you have available if you have to scrimp to knock down the balances? 

 

Mortgage scores react to utilization and number of cards reporting a balance. I can see where just paying off the two small ones did not do anything as far as crossing a threshold on utilization. 

 

Aim is to get overall utilization to UNDER 28.9% of your total credit line, and reduce at minimum less than 50% of cards reporting a balance. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Emergency Mortgage Question

We have limited funds right now, we just stopped paying child support and bills on 2 houses, plus the $1500 last few weeks that we spent paying what LO told us to.
Any large payoffs would have to come after the close on the hurricane house, hopefully in the next week or so, but we wanted to try to find out if we could do anything sooner.
We have rebuilt our credit before while being subscribed to myfico and scores would fluctuate by a few points on any given month let alone paying off/down a few things. So I was under the impression that mortgage scores pretty much reacted the same way. In my reading about utilization, I thought that tiers existed which penalized more or less, like 89+, 88-69, 68-49 etc...with the good spot being like <30%. Is this not the case? It's just <30% is green and anything else is red?
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