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@DallasLoanGuy wrote:sounds like 600 is that lenders guidelines.$40k down? that is LARGE!!!!!did they run you thru automated underwriting? are they stifling your approval until you get over 600?ask them the hard questions.
@DallasLoanGuy wrote:
hard to say without seeing a full file. but with that much down, i would try.please dont get your hopes up too much.... fha likes to measure the willingness and capacity to pay. all of those 120+ lates is bad. maybe a really crafty letter about how you didnt know that you could just start paying the student loans, that you thought you would have to pay all of the arrearage to get current or something.how long have they been caught up?did they offer a rehab deal? [Edited to remove material]
We JUST made our second payment "on time." We were $5K behind (interest really really racked up!!) and paid it + a little more.
We struggled for a while owing $2K here and $3k there and only able to make $1500 payments every other month. We never defaulted, though. so no mention of rehabbing ever entered the convo. We couldn't default -- hubby's DoD civilian and defaulting could have pulled his security clearance (of course, so could going over 180 days).
And yes, we were told by CSRs that all we could was pay the arreage NOW. That payments weren't good enough. But, in all fairness, they did consolidate us and they do deserve their $$!!
Right now, because of a LOT of problems with our account, a resolution specialist is investigating our file to clear up some boo-boos and see if we can be granted a "courtesy credit clear" ... not sure if it will work, of course, as I hear that SL servicers don't normally forgive lates. But here's hoping since that's our ugliest. Car loan was late about 4 times 30 days, but has been current for about 4 months.
look. to be blunt.... think about it. you cannot ask an underwriter to overlook lates of 6 months old when guidelines call for 12 months clean history(for manual underwrite). you might get an approval thru automated... but i doubt it. but you have a slim chance if debt ratios ar low and you have good cash reserves.
Wonderin wrote:
Okay, Dallas ... I think I definitely qualify as the dumb kid in class!! o_O there are no dumb questions
What do you mean by "file?" loan ap & credit report I hate to bother you with this stupid question and I know I can always Google it, but you don't act condescendingly and I don't see you BSing anyone (unlike a few people I've talked to personally here lately)!! flag those posts... the moderators dont like that crap either
We've got $23K left on a $52K SL (consistent lates enough on to be 120+, but paid up for the next two months), $1600 left on a $8K car loan (4 30 day lates -- about as recent as 4 months ago), three COs from circa 2005 (paid in FULL at the same time it charged off), and one medical collection from 2004 that's been paid off.
According to our FICOs, what's hurting us is the recent lates. As well as the lingering COs (again, from 2005). Hubby's FICOs are EX 528 (cause they haven't updated our accounts from TWO months ago yet!!), TU 600, EQ 578. We expect them to go up higher once more accounts update with good info.
Our income is $90K/year, 7 years at present employer (DoD civilian) 14 years in industry, with $10K in TSP, $40K to plunk down. We have no other reserves, though, but we're working on it. We were planning to put ALL $40K on the loan.
IF we stay current on all of our bills for the next 4 months and have no surprises (collections to pop up), what do you think our chances are? It would be, basically, 6 months of solid history (no lates). Or are we still tanked? if you had 12 months... i would feel better about it. with a big down payment though, you have a slim chance thru automated underwriting. manual underwrite would dent with those lates
Oh, also, in the 8 years of renting (at least, with a renter than can show documentation/proof) we've never been late! good news on manual underwrite. automated approval will not require rent to be verified And hubby has a BoA Government Travel Card that while it doesn't report to the CRAs, they will issue us a letter of credit stating that in 7 years, we've never been late! His CL with them is $4K, but will jump to $10K in a couple of months.
Would that constitute a file?
Wonderin wrote:
Yuck. Okay, last couple of questions (if you don't mind ... since I've been harassing you with oodles of them):
1) What exactly (or near exactly) would we have to have to be approved automatically? Is there a FICO range? Would a FICO of 650 get us in? fha will use something called the 'total scorecard' and fico is only a small part of it. they also score the credit themselves in addition to looking at length of employment and cas reserves, ect.
2) WHAT does the automated "see?" In our FICO scorewatch thingie, it shows us "red flags" -- right now, the 3 (on one report, only 2) COs show up as a "red flags" and the two accounts that WERE past due show up as red flags. Does the automated system "see" those flags just like we can? Does the automated have a model where "more than X flags" means a denial? 'total scorecard'
3) Also, when you say "12 months of good history" is that a guideline for both FHA AND conventional? fha manual underwrite calls for 12 months. you could try automated for both. see what happens
4) What would the most lates a lender would be willing to work with? Would 8 months of solid history work? 10? none in the last 12 months for manual. there is no set number for automated
I guess I'm trying to say/ask that we understand that we'd only hope to qualify for a subprime ... higher interest rates and all that. And we're fine with that (for now, hoping that refi-ing is an option down the road). ARE there any subprime lenders out there anymore? Or have they all pretty much disappeared? i dont know of a single one left.
When you say 12 months is that JUST for the "regular" loans or is that for "subprime" as well??
Again, please, please, please excuse the questions and I really DO appreciate your bluntness!! Trust me, with all that's going on with our credit situation, bluntness is REFRESHING!!