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Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?

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sportsguy83
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Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?


@tavisbryant wrote:

What do you guys think of the debt settlement proposal? Doesn't sound too enticing to me. 


I would absolutely not go the debt settlement route.  Beyond the principal of it (you borrowed the money so you should pay it) the longterm impact to your credit profile isn't worth it.  

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Message 11 of 19
tavisbryant
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Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?

Uhhh, hopes dashed. 2nd call of the one that listed of the debt and the payments they'd make was the same deal. They'd simply negotiate the settlement down and make payments each month on my behalf. So if I didn't pay them it would be me not paying all my debt and they wouldn't be on the hook for anything. Which makes sense considering my credit history, but I just thought maybe debt consolidators would be much more willing to lend if they were in control of where the money was going, so they know I'm not just taking out a loan to buy a new car or something. Oh well, I'll keep grinding away. I'm tossing back and forth between Upstart. While I can get some collection items paid off immediately the APR would just add another problem. If I could get a large loan that could wipe out all my collections debt I'd be much more willing to pay a higher APR but the $3k they're offering me might not do the trick. 

 

If you guys can think of any other options let me know. I'm starting to think my credit is just too much to overcome, although just for fun I've been seeing what I qualify for and everything they say might fit my needs denies me even if it's for $1k, like not even an offer at a ridiculous apr. It's an interesting strategy to not really use income as a factor for lending. I'd imagine even though I defaulted on debt that was over $2k when I was making $30k a year that a $500 loan making $100k more would be a pretty low risk move. But I can see they aren't in the life story business just more in the, you screwed people over before, we don't trust you business. So I understand that side of it. Just don't understand the competition side.

Message 12 of 19
difringe
Established Contributor

Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?


@tavisbryant wrote:

Uhhh, hopes dashed. 2nd call of the one that listed of the debt and the payments they'd make was the same deal. They'd simply negotiate the settlement down and make payments each month on my behalf. So if I didn't pay them it would be me not paying all my debt and they wouldn't be on the hook for anything. Which makes sense considering my credit history, but I just thought maybe debt consolidators would be much more willing to lend if they were in control of where the money was going, so they know I'm not just taking out a loan to buy a new car or something. Oh well, I'll keep grinding away. I'm tossing back and forth between Upstart. While I can get some collection items paid off immediately the APR would just add another problem. If I could get a large loan that could wipe out all my collections debt I'd be much more willing to pay a higher APR but the $3k they're offering me might not do the trick. 

 

If you guys can think of any other options let me know. I'm starting to think my credit is just too much to overcome, although just for fun I've been seeing what I qualify for and everything they say might fit my needs denies me even if it's for $1k, like not even an offer at a ridiculous apr. It's an interesting strategy to not really use income as a factor for lending. I'd imagine even though I defaulted on debt that was over $2k when I was making $30k a year that a $500 loan making $100k more would be a pretty low risk move. But I can see they aren't in the life story business just more in the, you screwed people over before, we don't trust you business. So I understand that side of it. Just don't understand the competition side.


From the competition side, there are just a bunch of algorithms telling these companies that you're too risky at this time (and a lot of those algorithms don't even look at income).

 

With the money you're making, if your friends/family are aware of your income, do you think you could get them to lower the payments you make to them for a bit to get those collections paid? I'd focus on the credit card collections, maybe someone else here has more experience with medical collections, I don't know how those are treated in terms of credit score, etc. Once you start getting those collections taken care of, your score should go up a bit and get you into the lower tranches for a lot of these companies like Upgrade, Prosper, etc.

 

Again though, if your reported debt-to-income ratio is low, you might have some luck with credit unions. You can try out Pentagon Federal Credit Union and see if their prequalification tool prequalifies you for more than $3k.  Additionally, I'd check out any credit union in your vicinity, you might have something by you that will take the chance based on your income.

 

Acorn Finance has a prequalify tool and looks like they look at income, maybe they'll be able to help.

 

When you say 'everything they say might fit my needs denies me,' are you actually applying to these things and getting the hard inquiry to your credit report? If so, I'd stop doing that and go with prequalifiers/preapproval checks that are soft inquiries. You're going to want to avoid looking like you're credit seeking when you're shopping around, so to speak.

 

Have you done the calculations to see how much you'd save with that Upstart loan vs. continuing with your current course?

Message 13 of 19
tavisbryant
New Member

Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?

@difringe 

 

Thank you for the reply. There is just so much shame in defaulting on debt and borrowing from parents and friends. Two and half/3 years living on $30k a year makes you hate debt and just want freedom again. But I'm just ranting, I realize my situation isn't actually bad, it's just more about what my options are. It just feels like even though I'm making better money that every paycheck it's just debt, debt, debt. And it feels like they are all due immediately. So even though debt consolidation is just more debt it swaps out the time and uncertainty factor which is what I'm looking for. I mean I'll survive in this situation but just for my sanity it would be nice to have one structured 2 year loan that isn't racing it's way to a charge off or a friend demanding money (which they wouldn't), while the rest of my funds I can just focus on my friends and medical debt, then my parents. And be free and clear knowing I paid off every single penny of my debt plus interest of course which I have added and a generous amount since they were so generous with me.

 

Anyways, if you think of anything let me know. I've had 3 calls today where they all advertised themselves as debt consolidators but turned out to be debt settlers and all 3 said the same thing that I would have almost no chance of getting a loan with my credit. Ughhhhhhhhh

 

 

Message 14 of 19
tavisbryant
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Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?

Got a quick question for the experts out there. I have two employment sources in the same industry and the companies I actually do work for reputable corporations, however the people who pay my checks are middle men that these companies use so they don't take on employees. So who do I use when applying for my loan? I mean it looks so much better using the main company but those who ask for my check stub are going to get a name that is different than I provide. 

 

Anyone know what to do in these situations when the people who write your checks and show up on your W2 are just employment services and not the company you actually do work for?

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txwallflower
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Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?


@tavisbryant wrote:

Got a quick question for the experts out there. I have two employment sources in the same industry and the companies I actually do work for reputable corporations, however the people who pay my checks are middle men that these companies use so they don't take on employees. So who do I use when applying for my loan? I mean it looks so much better using the main company but those who ask for my check stub are going to get a name that is different than I provide. 

 

Anyone know what to do in these situations when the people who write your checks and show up on your W2 are just employment services and not the company you actually do work for?


I am in the same arrangement. The company I work for is a major bank but I am not an employee of that bank.  My W2 is from the contracting firm (middleman). So unfotunately you need to list as your employer the one who pays you on the W2.

Message 16 of 19
tavisbryant
New Member

Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?

Just an update. After 2 weeks and trying some 100 places (became a fun hobby), majority soft checks, even though there were way too many hard checks done, I got two offers. I even tried getting credit and couldn't qualify for anything more than a $400 Indigo card with a $75 annual fee, so $325 in credit. I did get offers for some $300 limit cards but they were like $99 processing fee, $75 annual fee, and $10 a month processing fee. So it was like $195 a year for $300 credit, crazy. I'd do secured any day over those two offers.

 

I think the most annoying thing out of this entire process was I was talking to a credit union that turned me down and the person I spoke to said I'd have no problem paying off a $20k loan with my income and my situation isn't that bad, my payment history is alright, my DTI isn't that bad. I'm like, if nothing is that bad then why can't I even get a $3k loan let alone the $20k I was requesting. I wouldn't even try when I was making $30k a year, I knew no one would give me anything, but at my current income I thought I'd have a better chance, but nope. The credit report is it and that has nothing to do with income. That is rough when you're making $30-50k and in a bind. I was just lucky to have friends and family that supported me, but now I have a large amount of debt I owe.

 

But it was a fun journey. Denied by pretty much everyone. There was one credit union with a legitimate offer to take a chance on me with $5k BUT only way they would give me $5k was if I proved that I removed the delinquent on my credit report. So essentially pay $3300 for the $5k. But the good news is after I talked to them they did send me a counter offer of $8300 but they would apply the $3300 to the delinquent first, which is perfectly fine. I told them they could even transfer the $5k to one of my debts, but they said they wouldn't. So cross my fingers, the membership hasn't been approved, and even though the papers are signed by me, I haven't gotten official approval of it.

 

I'm not speaking for myself just my thoughts in general, but I wish there was a way for people who get an increase in income to get a loan specifically to clean up issues they had when they didn't have income. That way they clean up all their bad debt and have a nice structured debt for the future. It was an eye opening experience, really fun learning the system, but frustrating. Out of probably 100+ companies tried from credit cards, to credit unions, to mainstream places, to even couple tribal lenders, 4 were willing to take a chance. Net Credit at 97% APR, Upstart at 34% APR, one credit union said they would pay off the $3.3k delinquent for 18% APR, and the other credit union has an offer of $8.3k with $3.3k them transferring to the delinquent at 15% APR. Rough rough system, just nothing available when screw up, even when you try to fix those mistakes. And once again that's just my opinion on the system, I understand personal responsibility and at the end of the day it was my fault and the banks don't owe me anything.

 

The one thing I don't understand though is with how competitive the market is and the fact the point of lending is to make a profit, why there is not more effort to use income. I mean it just makes very simple sense to me that someone who struggles paying debt with no employment might be more successful paying debt with employment. But maybe that's not true. I don't know. All I know is I'll pay this loan off and hopefully build a successful relationship with this credit union. 

Message 17 of 19
Kforce
Valued Contributor

Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?


@tavisbryant wrote:

Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone knows of a lender that takes income in to consideration over credit. I went from making $120k a year to $30k 3 years ago. During that time 2 medical expenses totalling $19k and 3 credit cards totalling $9k are currently in collections and my credit score dropped to 559. I also have a $12k student loan that's past due and close to collections but they are postponing payments on that and I think I can continue payments regularly when they're due.

 

One of the big issues I'm having, is my family and friends pretty much carried me for two and a half years when I was making $30k to keep me from losing everything. So I owe them about $60k and most of my paychecks go to paying them off. But lenders don't know about that. I

 

But late December I got a pretty good job again and back to making $125k verifiable income and $10k of expected dividends for the year. So $135k. But I can't get anything. I mean I can't even get a $500 payday loan or $1000 line of credit. I'm trying to get $25-$30k debt consolidation loan. 

 

So basically does anyone know lenders that are income based instead of credit based because I simply won't pass any credit criteria. And I understand this is all my fault but I'm working to get out of it. The other question is will paying off the collection items with a debt settle loan be a good thing for my credit score? Thanks for the help.


My simple math figures that you obtained 90,000 debt over 3 years.

~ 30,000 year with 30,000 positive income so 60,000 year for your expenses.

With new income of 120,000+,  you should have ~ 60,000 year to pay back all loans and relatives with out taking out a new loan.

90k/60k =  1.5 years, you should be able to do this in 2-3 years easy.

I would just start paying every thing off with my increased income.

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babygirl1256
Senior Contributor

Re: Any Personal Loans or Debt Consolidation Loans for Good Income but very Bad Credit Score 559?

@tavisbryant My daughter's credit struggled for several years when she was hit with several major surgeries and her score dropped to the low 500s. I signed her up for Navy Federal Credit Union (NFCU) and they approved her for a GoRewards Mastercard and unbelievably she was recently approved for an auto loan with no co-signer!!! So if you haven't tried NFCU, take a look at them!!! Best wishes on your credit rebuild . . . don't give-up just take one day at at time. I've read that Upstart is good so hopefully that will work for your also!!! Smiley WinkGrow through credit rebuilding clip art.png

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