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Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

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Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

So I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this but it’s worth finding out for sure.

I live in NY and thus can benefit from the 5-year NYS Purge Law. I have a couple medical collections with DoFDs of May 2014. Under NY law, they would fall off in May of 2019. Has anyone ever found the bureaus willing to do an EE on paid collections under the NY 5 year statute? If so, these would fall off my reports in November, February, and April, based on the 6/3/1-month EE policies of the three CRAs.

If not it’s not a big deal, as they’ll be gone next spring but I figure if they’re already going to be gone two years sooner than normal due to NY’s statute of 5-year deletion, might as well see if they can go even earlier.

Anybody have any experiences to share on this? TIA...
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Medic981
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Re: Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

New York State 5 Year Purge Rule For Paid Collections/Charge Offs







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Anonymous
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Re: Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

Yup I’ve read that thread. What I’m wondering is, for example - I believe TU does 6-month EE on normal baddies, that they’ll delete upon request at 6yrs 6mos from DoFD. Under NY’s Purge law, would they still grant the same EE, so instead of a 5-year reporting period, they’d delete at 4yrs 6mos? That’s the kind of thing I’m trying to see if anyone has had success with.
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Anonymous
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Re: Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

I can give you my (annoying) experience.  My paid charge-off (which Chase has admitted was an error on their part) fell off two months early from five years after DoFD from TU three months ago, a month later from EQ.  I called EX months ago and was told that it would be deleted on 9/15, five years from DoFD.  Called 9/16 and was informed that it is NOT the DoFD, but rather the charge-off date so six months to go. 

 

Now I am trying to figure out what I should do.  I don't need it off for any reason other than I just want it off, so I will probably do nothing.  I spent a ridiculous amount of time dealing with Chase and do not have the energy to start again (they sent me my money back).  I was thinking about calling EX back and trying with a different rep, but that is also a waste of time...

 

Sorry to rant!  To your original question, I did not contact EQ or TU about having this removed, and they did do it a little bit early, but not six months.

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RobertEG
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The CRA employee that you spoke with clearly has NO comprehension of credit reporting.

The statement that any exclusion is based on date of a CO is simply rediculous.

The date that a creditor took a charge-off is not even reported to the CRAs.  It is an internal accounting measure, and has no codes that permit the reporting of the date of a CO to the CRAs.  It is not relevant to the CRA or to credit scoring, period.

 

Creditors only report, at some subsequent date, that they have previously taken a charge-off.  They do not report the date of their CO.

If they have taken a CO, that then permits them to report CO as either the current status, of as the prior payment history profile delinquency status for any month after it was charged off.

 

The CRA has no ablility to determine the date of a charge off, and thus any statement that the exclusion date is based on the CO date is simply incorrect.

A creditor is required to separately and explicity report the DOFD to the CRA once they have reported a CO as either the current status or as a prior monthly payment history stauts, and the CRA uses that date to determine credit report exclusion.

 

I would call the CRA and ask for a supervisor, who should understand the clear inaccuracy in what their employee has stated.

If that does not get clarification, then I would send a formal complaint to the CFPB for their clear non-compliance with the FCRA exclusion provisions, as established by both the FCRA and current interpretation of the NYS early exclusion date statute.

A letter from the CFPB will be handled by a management official, and should obtain correct interpretation.

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Anonymous
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I look forward to calling tomorrow!

 

Robert, I have had some complicated issues with my rebuild and could not have done it without your help.

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Anonymous
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Re: Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

It will be removed in 72 hours! 

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sjt
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Re: Likely wishful thinking with EE and NYS Purge law but...

Yes you can still request an early exclusion.

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Excellent news - thank you!
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