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Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

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Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

I've spent a good part of the day reading over forums and researching our situation and am looking for more specific advice. My husband and I are beginning credit repair in hopes to reach a point of being able to buy a house in 1.5-2 years. His credit is around 530 and mine is around 560 (I really have no idea because they are all different ugh). Anyway, really want to focus on husbands credit as I am not working so have no income for applying for mortgage. He has some old medical bills that will fall off starting in 2018 as well as a credit card from First Premier Bank and some utility charge offs (comcast, progressive insurance, etc). My questions are:

 

Do I try to request validation of the debt before trying to pay? If they don't respond can the debt be removed or is this not true?

Do I pay the debts or settle them in hopes that I can get a GW delete or try to let them fall off and focus on building new good credit?

He is an authorized user on 2 of my good standing credit cards...does this help him at all? Or does he need a secured card in his name?

We consolidated student loans earlier this year. We both have lots of loans showing on our reports from before the consolidation with lots of late payments. Is there a way to get these deleted? Would that hurt his age of credit (which isn't very long to begin with)? We had Sallie Mae and Navient before consolidation and now have Fedloans.

 

TIA!

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Anonymous
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

The first step probably needs to be investing in a full set of credit reports and FICO scores for both of you.  This may cost you $40 or so, but you need to have a clearly defined starting point, and be able to see detailed information on each and every item listed on both of your reports.  Do not rely on scores from Credit Karma or anyone like that, those scores are useless.  Credit Karma can be useful to help you monitor things like inquiries, collections appearing or disappearing, etc - but their scores are worthless.


Notice I said both - your lack of income doesn't help the approval, you're right, but you are starting in a higher score position, so if your score climbs along with his, you may be able to help with the interest rate that y'all ultimately get on the loan.  His income, both credit scores for possible better interest/terms.  You are married, so you can still apply alongside him even though you do not contribute income to the picture.

 

Once you know your definite starting place for each of you, you then make a plan.

 

Requesting a validation of a debt from a collector (or the original creditor) when you know the debt is yours really won't accomplish much.  It may scare off some collection agencies (who will immediately close the collection and hand it back to the original creditor) but it won't make the debt go away.  The original creditor can then either reassign it to another collector or write it off and 1099 your husband - either of which does not help.   If the goal is to eliminate the reporting of derogatory information related to one of these old debts, PFD is a better option.  Just know going in that getting a PFD agreement is not a sure thing, and in fact is not all that common - it just looks like it from the "success" stories you see all over this board.  The reality is, there are far more "no go" results than successful ones with this.  But it just costs stamps to try.

 

If you put a year into the efforts and still get nowhere on some of the old debts, once you hit a few months before they "die" (that is, before their 7-yr reporting life is up) you can try getting them excluded by the CRAs at that point.  

 

Being an AU on your cards with good payment history and good utilization helps him - just like those things help you.  Having at least one card of his own would help, but you need to be careful with inquiries and plan applications where you are reasonably certain of approval - in other words, he shouldn't be trying for a Chase Freedom or an American Express card with his scores as they are now.  Capital One may be able to prequalify you/him/both for one of their rebuilder cards, or you might look at Discover IT secured or one of the other secured cards out there which graduate after a year or so of good behavior.

 

Getting late payments deleted by student loan people can be difficult.  They are not supposed to delete anything, of course, and these guys are particularly hesitant to do so.  Look at these as more of healing wounds - they may still be bleeding a little (hurting scores) but they will heal up and stop bleeding as time moves on.  Even a year from now, their effect will be diminished from where it is now with no action at all.  You can try to get them deleted with a letter-writing campaign, but there are probably other more definite benefits you can get out of your energy.

 

Do y'all own cars?  If so, are they financed?  If not, do you have any other installment accounts with a positive history (since your student loan records are not entirely positive)?  If you do not, then you might want to look at a small personal loan from a credit union or other lender (I'm not talking about a title loan or a payday loan - avoid those! - but a small loan of a couple hundred dollars granted by a lender who'll let you make monthly payments over time to pay it off without charging you 642% interest).  If you do have car notes, then pay those religiously on time.  Building a better installment history can help outweigh the damage from the student loan issues as time passes.

 

 

Again, what you prioritize and what your long-term goals are will be determined by where you are starting on each file.

Pull good scores and complete reports, and figure out your budget so you know what cash you will have for settling old debts/collections while still keeping your utilization and your payments on your current accounts in good shape.

Make a list of the collections and chargeoffs with amounts, DOFDs, fall-off dates, potential for legal action (SOL dates), and who is reporting what (original creditor vs. collection agency) on both reports.

Come back when you have those answered, and we can give you more direct, detailed advice.

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Anonymous
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

I agree with pretty much all hmw said except for the $40 for the reports and scores. For $1 each, both of you can join credit check total for a week and get all 3 reports and fico 8 scores just make sure to cancel within the week.

You came to the right place, there are plenty of people with invaluable knowledge willing to help. Welcome to the forums and good luck.
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Anonymous
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

This is very helpful, thank you for responding!

 

I will work on getting better, accurate scores and reports and organzing everything. There are so many fake scores out there and its overwhelming! We both have cars financed (extremely high interest rates and all that but they do report to all CRA's). He is a co-signer on mine so he has both reporting to his credit. He has had late payments in the past on his but we have been on time with it for many months now and mine has no late payments. He also has a secured "loan" through self lender that has been reporting since July. So, we do have a few positives. We are also planning to get him the Discover It secured card.

 

It seems hard to know where to start when there are so many different things we need to focus on but you've given me some good info and a place to start! Thanks!

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Anonymous
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

I will look into credit check total. Thank you!!

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tomfromrictmame
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

Just be aware that CCT reports are consolidated.  That is, they are not complete credit reports from the CRA's.  You can get full reports for free from annualcreditreport.com.  These reports have all of the information that you need in order to "baseline" your plan.




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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start


@Anonymous wrote:

This is very helpful, thank you for responding!

 

I will work on getting better, accurate scores and reports and organzing everything. There are so many fake scores out there and its overwhelming! We both have cars financed (extremely high interest rates and all that but they do report to all CRA's). He is a co-signer on mine so he has both reporting to his credit. He has had late payments in the past on his but we have been on time with it for many months now and mine has no late payments. He also has a secured "loan" through self lender that has been reporting since July. So, we do have a few positives. We are also planning to get him the Discover It secured card.

 

It seems hard to know where to start when there are so many different things we need to focus on but you've given me some good info and a place to start! Thanks!


Credit scores are mostly about credit cards. He needs to have at least three credit cards in his name - don't rely on AU accounts. While many people will say to never charge beyond 30% and other such nonsense, the fact is you just need to understand how the UTI% portion of your scores works, and keep balances low enough that you can pay it to whatever % you want to in any given month.

I would suggest you sit back and spend as much time as possible reading this forum for the next few weeks.

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Anonymous
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start


@Anonymous wrote:

I've spent a good part of the day reading over forums and researching our situation and am looking for more specific advice. My husband and I are beginning credit repair in hopes to reach a point of being able to buy a house in 1.5-2 years. His credit is around 530 and mine is around 560 (I really have no idea because they are all different ugh). Anyway, really want to focus on husbands credit as I am not working so have no income for applying for mortgage. He has some old medical bills that will fall off starting in 2018 as well as a credit card from First Premier Bank and some utility charge offs (comcast, progressive insurance, etc). My questions are:

 

Do I try to request validation of the debt before trying to pay?

Only if its with a collector, and you don't know what the item is.

If they don't respond can the debt be removed or is this not true?

No.

Do I pay the debts or settle them in hopes that I can get a GW delete or try to let them fall off and focus on building new good credit?

Depends on the item, this is mostly a personal preference sort of thing.

He is an authorized user on 2 of my good standing credit cards...does this help him at all?

It can help some - or not.

Or does he need a secured card in his name?

He needs to have three. Secured if necessary.

We consolidated student loans earlier this year. We both have lots of loans showing on our reports from before the consolidation with lots of late payments. Is there a way to get these deleted?

GW deletions are the only option and VERY hard to get from these two places.

Would that hurt his age of credit (which isn't very long to begin with)?

At this point don't even worry about age of credit - that will come over time all on its own.

We had Sallie Mae and Navient before consolidation and now have Fedloans.

 

TIA!


FWIW, you have a more sensible timeline for your mortgage plans than most at 1.5-2 years. When rebuilding your credit, it should always be looked at as a long term, 24 month process at the minimum.

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StartingOver10
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

Agree with the posters above ^^^

 

Getting your credit reports from the CRA's is critical. Don't use the scores - unless they are FICO scores. 

Using www.annualcreditreport.com is excellent. The credit reports are free - one time per CRA per year (this is a Federal Mandate but you won't get the report unless you specifically request it). 

 

Start a file for each of you. It is a good idea to work on both of your scores, even if you don't plan on being on the loan now. Some states are community property states and any debt you have would be added to your husband's debt for a government type mortgage (VA, FHA, USDA).  There are only 9 community property states within the US, but it doesn't hurt to work on your credit reports even if you are not in a community property state.

 

Rebuilding (or building) you and your husband's scores is two main factors:

  • Repairing the 'baddies'
  • Building good new credit

You do not need large credit lines.  Just positively paid revolving credit. It works with installment too, but if your monthly installment payment is too high, it can eat into how much mortgage you can qualify for when you make your mortgage application. This is because there are limits to how much  you can borrow based on your income and your DTI (debt to income)

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Anonymous
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Re: Needing credit repair advice--don't know where to start

Damn totally forgot to recommend annualcreditreport.com before cct, good save guys
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