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Red flags in relationships with rich men (or women, I guess)

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Amwar73mf
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Red flags in relationships with rich men (or women, I guess)

Maybe it's just my experience, and all people are different. These are just some things I've seen that are total red flags for me.

TLDR: Constant bragging, criticizing people they thing they are better than, putting money making ahead of time with you, passive-aggressive insults on your apearance, always expecting payback for anything they spend on you.

 

1) CONSTANTLY bragging about their money, all the expensive things they've bought, vacations to expensive places, etc. My last attempt at internet dating never got past the first couple of months, because he started out right away talking about his cars, his travels, the expensive gifts he buys everyone, blah, blah, blah. I asked him why he bragged so much about money, and he seemed shocked. He said he would stop, but he couldn't. I live on a very low income, but he never once offered to help me (not that I expected or wanted him to), just went on about how much he spent on himself and his family.

2) Criticizing people who are "below" them. One guy would take me to fancy restaurants and spend the whole time being a total ass to the wait staff, then leave a small tip. On our last date, I just got up to walk out and he asked why. I said in a very loud voice, "Your money does not give you the right to treat people you consider below you with disdain or order them around or be rude, crude and socially unacceptable to them. I'm DONE!" He screamed after me, "Fine! You're trailer trash anyway!" As I was outside calling for an Uber, a nice lady who had been at a table near us came out and asked if I needed a ride home. I took it, and we are still friends to this day.

3) Being on their phone the whole time they are with you talking shop with whoever, making deals, etc. If they can't put their work away to spend a couple of hours with you, then you don't need them.

4) Passive-aggressive comments on your appearance, like making comments about your outfit being last year's fashion or asking if you bought it from Walmart/Target/ etc., then offering to take you shopping. Or saying "Is that what you're wearing?" when you're going out somewhere, like they're ashamed of you.

5) Expecting to be "paid back" for things  they do for you, but not with money, if you get my drift, and getting mad if you won't do it.

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visionsdivine
Valued Member

Re: Red flags in relationships with rich men (or women, I guess)

It's good to know what you will and will not put up with in a relationship. You'll never be mad at yourself for not taking **bleep** from other people.

 

For number 5 though, it's an **bleep** move to *expect* to be paid back in those ways, but is it an **bleep** move just to ask? Smiley LOL

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Amwar73mf
Established Member

Re: Red flags in relationships with rich men (or women, I guess)

I'd say to ask if it's attached to "Well, I did this and this for you," is bad. Otherwise, you'll never know if you don't ask, right? Just don't make someone feel like it's payment for services received. That makes it prostitution.

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JoeRockhead
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Re: Red flags in relationships with rich men (or women, I guess)

In the past 30+ years in business of having clients from all walks of life, I can tell you what my experiences have been. My clientele has consisted of everyone from your everyday Joe/Jane, to a few famous Actors and TV personalities, professional athletes and coaches to people wealthy enough to have "vacation homes" all over the planet, several private jets and their own chefs/personal staff that traveled with them virtually everywhere they go. Most assuredly, there are arrogant, narcissistic, superficial, opportunistic, entitled people from every economic class. Just as there are kind, humble, generous, inherently good people from among the same groups.

 

Sometimes money, or success can go to people's heads. It's been my experience that some people just posses questionable traits regardless of their status in life. I believe, and have experienced that one's inherent character and morals don't fundamentally change because of wealth.

 

If they were people with questionable character and morals with no money, then acquiring money, success, or power only exacerbates what was already there to begin with. 

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Red flags in relationships with rich men (or women, I guess)

In my experience, people who brag about things usually can't back that up. Bragging about things, in my opinion, goes back to our early ancestors. Imagine some caveman going "Me important! Look at all things me collect!" A lot of behaviors persist into the modern world, and that's where you get things like shopping holidays where you show others your "black friday haul".

 

My sister-in-law brags about how much money they have and they had to take a credit card cash advance in the middle of a trip to Singapore.

 

They work and work, and it's just to make debt payments. 80 hours of work, each, per week, missing their kids growing up, so they can "accumulate things".

 

The Millionaire Next Door surveyed millionaires, actual millionaires, and found that most of them had never paid more than $50 for a pair of jeans, or $300 for a watch, and many of them drove late model Honda and Toyota cars.

 

There are two ways to accumulate money. You can work yourself to death earning it, or you can control your spending. It's much easier to control spending. You need to do both, but these are the choices to bring things into balance.

 

But the "work yourself to death" crowd is usually not doing it to accumulate money, they do it because they're like my in-laws and they have to service the debt, or get sued.

 

If you think that actual wealth building means strutting around like a peacock in a $600 pair of sweat pants from Burberry, you need to go back to the lab and get your bolts tightened. Smiley Happy

 

You don't accumulate wealth by buying new cars with a car loan. That's like saying I took $80,000 and turned it into $20,000 in only five years. I made money! (There was actually a person here on these forums saying he made money with a car loan.)

 

As an aside from the money issue, if you can't even get them off their stinking $1700 iPhone at the dinner table, is this going to be marriage material? I'm going to go ahead and say no. If you can't get them to pay more attention to you than a skinner box, get up and leave and let them keep playing with their iPhone.

 

I've been on dates (pre-getting married) where the person couldn't look up from playing freaking Candy Crush and so I just slipped out of the restaurant and drove off with them sitting there playing their phone. There's no shame in ditching a bad date that can't even be bothered to pay you some respect.

 

I almost never brag about how much money I've managed to save up, especially not exact figures, and certainly not around family members that have nothing but debt and everyone in Indiana lined up to sue them over debt (which is pretty much everone on my mom's side), but they're constantly eating out, and in my house we eat our leftovers, and they're going to Starbucks every day and in my house we make coffee in the coffee maker, and in their houses, they have $300 Verizon bills because everyone has to have phones and tablets on a data plan, and at my house we have $7.50 a month Mint Mobile. In their houses, they drive a new car and trade it in every couple years, and I'm rocking a 16 year old car. 

 

I have money and no bills, they have FICO scores that are probably not lower than they are just because they only go down to 300.

 

They go to Disney and Hawaii, and I don't have any evictions on my record.

 

They make $200,000 or more a year and go to freaking payday loan stores. We make about a quarter that and I've never ever been in one.

 

They get a new Apple Watch every year or two. I wear a Casio.

 

They have kids, I don't. (Expensive vanity project.)

 

Most people who "Have stuff." just have debt. They spent the bank's money, not theirs, and now they're in debt. Normal, in this country, is "messed up". We live in a consumer culture that has given people incorrect priorities.

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