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12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances

Suzette2
Frequent Contributor

12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 

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GatoradeZeroGuy
Established Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


There is a penalty for all zero balance on AU cards, just like there is a penalty for all zero balance on your personal revolvers. It's about 10-15 points.

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simplynoir
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Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@GatoradeZeroGuy wrote:

@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


There is a penalty for all zero balance on AU cards, just like there is a penalty for all zero balance on your personal revolvers. It's about 10-15 points.


If so this is the first I've heard about it. I had assumed AU cards were treated the same as any other card on the primary's credit reports. I can see the score drop is if she was looking at her husband's scores and thought they were her own as a small mix up because that doesn't make sense to me otherwise

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GatoradeZeroGuy
Established Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@simplynoir wrote:

@GatoradeZeroGuy wrote:

@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


There is a penalty for all zero balance on AU cards, just like there is a penalty for all zero balance on your personal revolvers. It's about 10-15 points.


If so this is the first I've heard about it. I had assumed AU cards were treated the same as any other card on the primary's credit reports. I can see the score drop is if she was looking at her husband's scores and thought they were her own as a small mix up because that doesn't make sense to me otherwise


https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Credit-Scoring-Primer-pub-5-17-20/m-p/60...

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sznthescore
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Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances

@GatoradeZeroGuy  Thanks for the info. I took my nosey self on over to the link and my oh my am I learning more than expected... 👍🏽 ✍🏽





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Suzette2
Frequent Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@simplynoir wrote:

@GatoradeZeroGuy wrote:

@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


There is a penalty for all zero balance on AU cards, just like there is a penalty for all zero balance on your personal revolvers. It's about 10-15 points.


If so this is the first I've heard about it. I had assumed AU cards were treated the same as any other card on the primary's credit reports. I can see the score drop is if she was looking at her husband's scores and thought they were her own as a small mix up because that doesn't make sense to me otherwise


Nope.  The only different thing from last night to this morning on MY 

EX was his disco (my AU) bring zero.   My disco shows $25.  Neither of us has ever been late.  No new inquiries 

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Suzette2
Frequent Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@sznthescore wrote:

@GatoradeZeroGuy  Thanks for the info. I took my nosey self on over to the link and my oh my am I learning more than expected... 👍🏽 ✍🏽


Me too.  I had no idea this would happen.  Particularly since my cards are AZEO 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


This I haven't seen.  I've seen it the other way around, where the AU is at all zero, and the primary card holder experiences a penalty because of that. But I've never heard of the AU being penalized because the primary card holder was at all zero.

 

The posts to which people are referring all relate to the normal AU penalty, where the AU's all-zero causes a penalty for the primary.


Total revolving limits 748700 (630200 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 705 TU 717 EX 687

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Suzette2
Frequent Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


This I haven't seen.  I've seen it the other way around, where the AU is at all zero, and the primary card holder experiences a penalty because of that. But I've never heard of the AU being penalized because the primary card holder was at all zero.

 

The posts to which people are referring all relate to the normal AU penalty, where the AU's all-zero causes a penalty for the primary.


Yep- happened to me.  I will see if the score goes right up when something else reports with a balance. 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 12 point EX drop due to AU zero balances


@Suzette2 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Suzette2 wrote:

So this is a weird one.  My husband has a disco which I'm an AU - and a B of A as well as a delta reserve.  The way this month fell, I accidentally paid all his cards to zero - when I usually report a small balance on his disco. My cards show a small balance on my disco and my macys.  Yesterday evening I checked and my EX was 705.  This morning it was down 12 points.   The only diff is his disco reporting zero - the one I'm an AU on.  Anyone else see this happen? 


This I haven't seen.  I've seen it the other way around, where the AU is at all zero, and the primary card holder experiences a penalty because of that. But I've never heard of the AU being penalized because the primary card holder was at all zero.

 

The posts to which people are referring all relate to the normal AU penalty, where the AU's all-zero causes a penalty for the primary.


Yep- happened to me.  I will see if the score goes right up when something else reports with a balance. 


Yes I know it happened. You explained it very clearly.

 

I have never seen such a thing, and I think those in this thread who think they have seen it are all referring to the reverse situation -- where the AU's all-zero causes a penalty to the primary cardholder.


Total revolving limits 748700 (630200 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 705 TU 717 EX 687

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