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17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity

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17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity

It sometimes amazes me how credit agencys actually calculate their score. 

 

I have a high amount in credit for years and cards with the heavy hitters, and the only balance I've had over my multiple cards was with Discover. I just paid it off last week, and now I have zero debt showing ( besides my car )

 

So for paying off everything, I lost 17 points from EXP. Seriously? 17 Points? I lost 16 when I paid off my last car loan 8 months ago, but for paying off a credit card? Comeon. I can't wait to see how it affects TU and EQ

 

I literally just canceled myfico a few days ago cause I figured " Hey I don't need it, I dont forsee any real notiable increases or drops anytime soon " and then BAM, get this notification today, a few days before it stops showing me

 

Now I have to keep it for another month or 2 to see if I can recover. Mind you I still have 745 as the score with exp, but GEEZ, I want a mortage in the next 6 - 12 months. 

 

So do I seriously need to actually KEEP a balance owed for me to get a better score? 

 

Dumb logic

 

Sorry, I was just venting ;]

 

UPDATE: EQ dropped 17 points also

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Anonymous
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Re: 17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity

A quick search on the site will show that there is a FICO scoring penalty for having zero utilization among your revolving credit accounts.
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K-in-Boston
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Re: 17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity

A customer that is using absolutely none of their revolving credit is a higher risk than someone that is showing mild (or even moderate) use of their credit.  You don't need to carry a balance from month-to-month and pay interest, but you do need to use at minimum one card and let a balance post when your statement closes (then pay the full "statement balance" amount prior to the due date approximately 25-28 days later to avoid interest).  AZEO (all zero except one) would give you the highest amount of points, where none of your credit cards have a balance, except one which is reporting a balance under 9% of its credit limit (at least $5 with most accounts to avoid being rounded down to $0).

 

Utilization has no memory, so if you use any of your credit cards and let a statement balance post, you will immediately gain those points back when your balance is reported to the credit bureaus the following month.  No need for alarm with a mortgage application that far out, just make sure you don't have $0 showing all around when it's time to apply (and later on if they do an additional credit pull prior to finalizing your approval).

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Anonymous
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Re: 17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity

UPDATE: Equifax just dropped 17 points for the same reason. 

 

Well I have a card I left a balance on posting today, so I guess I'll know soon enough if the points come back. I left a balance around the same as the one I paid off so we will see

 

Thank you for all the help. I will update

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Anonymous
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Re: 17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity

Thanks to the other folks who have so helpfully chimed in. 

 

Yeah, just one more voice to reassure you: all the points will come back.  To rule out any weird corner cases, however, the card that is showing a positive balance should be:

 

(1)  A true major credit card (not a charge card or a store card)

(2)  A card in your name (not an AU card)

(3)  A card with a credit limit of < 34.9k

 

The balance can be quite small: as our other friend mentioned, $5 is fine.

 

If you have at least one card meeting the criteria above, FICO will pereceive you as a person who uses his cards and the penalty will disappear.

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SouthJamaica
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Re: 17 Point drop for paying off credit card!? Logic Insanity


@Anonymous wrote:

It sometimes amazes me how credit agencys actually calculate their score. 

 

I have a high amount in credit for years and cards with the heavy hitters, and the only balance I've had over my multiple cards was with Discover. I just paid it off last week, and now I have zero debt showing ( besides my car )

 

So for paying off everything, I lost 17 points from EXP. Seriously? 17 Points? I lost 16 when I paid off my last car loan 8 months ago, but for paying off a credit card? Comeon. I can't wait to see how it affects TU and EQ

 

I literally just canceled myfico a few days ago cause I figured " Hey I don't need it, I dont forsee any real notiable increases or drops anytime soon " and then BAM, get this notification today, a few days before it stops showing me

 

Now I have to keep it for another month or 2 to see if I can recover. Mind you I still have 745 as the score with exp, but GEEZ, I want a mortage in the next 6 - 12 months. 

 

So do I seriously need to actually KEEP a balance owed for me to get a better score? 

 

Dumb logic

 

Sorry, I was just venting ;]

 

UPDATE: EQ dropped 17 points also


As others have noted, it is well known that FICO 8 imposes a penalty if all revolving accounts report a zero balance. The penalty does not occur if there is one card reporting a small balance, even as little as $5 or $10.

 

It is not nearly as well known what effect, if any, it would have on your other FICO scores. Since you are applying for a mortgage in the near future, your real interest is in the mortgage scores: EQ FICO 5, TU FICO 4, and EX FICO 2.

 

So I would suggest keeping MyFICO until your mortgage is signed, sealed, and delivered.

 

And by the way, I agree with you that it is "dumb" but disagree with you that it is "logic" Smiley Happy


Total revolving limits 741200 (620700 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 703 TU 704 EX 687

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