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Varsity_Lu
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Re: 800 With Only CCs

@Thomas_Thumb 

 

So, if this is true, it will be a few years before I get there.  I opened my Quicksilver 2+ years ago, but the BCP, Voice, and SavorOne were all opened in 2024.  Do you just add up the ages and divide the number by the number of accounts to get the average age or is there some weighting that goes on?  (21+2+1+1+1)/5 will put me at an average of 5 or so, right?

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: 800 With Only CCs

@FicoMike0 

 

What is AZE3?

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

The AU account CL and balance will not be included in Fico 8 and Fico 9 aggregate revolving credit utilizations for your file. Keep reported utilization on your cards below 9%. Atleast 1 card should report a statement balance.

 

AAoA is strictly an arithmetic average, no weighting. However, according to Fico, AU accounts might be excluded for scoring purposes. If not excluded, in 1 year your AoYA will reach 2 years, your AAoA is already above 3 years and AoOA is well above 5 years. 

 

Side notes: you have 4 personal cards. Use the cards all you want but, keep balance(s) reporting on monthly statements low for highest scores. Don't fixate on practicing AZE1. No harm in reporting AZE2 as opposed to AZE1. However, try to avoid all cards reporting balances (AZE4 in your case). Also avoid AZ (all cards reporting $0)

 

Don't go crazy on AU account swapping. One AU account each is enough.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Varsity_Lu
Established Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

@Thomas_Thumb 

One thing I like about Cap One AU is that I see and can manage both wife's and my account with one login. AmEx is terrible with this. I have my account, she has hers, I have to make another username as her AU, and she has a separate AU login for my account. It sucks. I end up just logging in to her account on her phone to make payments because I am not going to remember 4 separate usernames just to see everything. I may drop the AUs on the AmEx cards and just keep the 2 Cap One AU accounts if they aren't really helping.

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: 800 With Only CCs


@FicoMike0 wrote:

 

opened a ssl with penfed. Got a 30-40 point boost, cost ~$10. I'm now above 800, except ex, at 794. 

Could you be more specific on what/how much you did this loan thing?

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: 800 With Only CCs


@Varsity_Lu wrote:

@FicoMike0 wrote:

 

opened a ssl with penfed. Got a 30-40 point boost, cost ~$10. I'm now above 800, except ex, at 794. 

Could you be more specific on what/how much you did this loan thing?


https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/SSL-Share-Secured-Loan-Technique/td-p/6371294

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Varsity_Lu
Established Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

The AU account CL and balance will not be included in Fico 8 and Fico 9 aggregate revolving credit utilizations for your file. Keep reported utilization on your cards below 9%.

 

AAoA is strictly an arithmetic average, no weighting. However, according to Fico, AU accounts might be excluded for scoring purposes. If not excluded, in 2 years your AoYA will reach 3 years and your AAoA will be well above 5 years at that time. If excluded, it will be 4 years before your AAoA reaches 5 years.

 

Side notes: you have 4 personal cards. Use the cards all you want but, keep balance(s) reporting on monthly statements low for highest scores. Don't fixate on practicing AZE1. No harm in reporting AZE2 as opposed to AZE1. However, try to avoid all cards reporting balances (AZE4 in your case).

 

Don't go crazy on AU account swapping. One AU account each is enough.


Ok, bear with me since I am a noob. The last two years I have been making weekly payments to all my accounts (usually on Sat or Sun since my wife shops on Friday) and my accounts are almost always at zero by Monday morning. Like I said, I am a cash-only guy and have been my entire adult life. I don't buy it if I don't have the cash. What do I need to do to get achieve "not report zero" as you say? Are you talking about the account statement? Are you talking about when the credit reporting agencies update my report? And how do know when these occur?

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SouthJamaica
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Re: 800 With Only CCs


@Varsity_Lu wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

The AU account CL and balance will not be included in Fico 8 and Fico 9 aggregate revolving credit utilizations for your file. Keep reported utilization on your cards below 9%.

 

AAoA is strictly an arithmetic average, no weighting. However, according to Fico, AU accounts might be excluded for scoring purposes. If not excluded, in 2 years your AoYA will reach 3 years and your AAoA will be well above 5 years at that time. If excluded, it will be 4 years before your AAoA reaches 5 years.

 

Side notes: you have 4 personal cards. Use the cards all you want but, keep balance(s) reporting on monthly statements low for highest scores. Don't fixate on practicing AZE1. No harm in reporting AZE2 as opposed to AZE1. However, try to avoid all cards reporting balances (AZE4 in your case).

 

Don't go crazy on AU account swapping. One AU account each is enough.


Ok, bear with me since I am a noob. The last two years I have been making weekly payments to all my accounts (usually on Sat or Sun since my wife shops on Friday) and my accounts are almost always at zero by Monday morning. Like I said, I am a cash-only guy and have been my entire adult life. I don't buy it if I don't have the cash. What do I need to do to get achieve "not report zero" as you say? Are you talking about the account statement? Are you talking about when the credit reporting agencies update my report? And how do know when these occur?


FICO has an irrational policy of penalizing you for having all your revolving accounts report at zero balance. With most cards the statement balance is the reported balance. So it is preferable to let one card report a small balance, rather than a zero balance, to avoid the "All Zero Penalty".


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Varsity_Lu
Established Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

@SouthJamaica 

So, leave one account unpaid until I get the "Your Statement is Ready" email from them. Then pay it? Honestly, I don't even know when my account statements happen because my account are at zero 99% of the time.

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: 800 With Only CCs

Regarding the SSL:

1. I give the $500

2. I then borrow $500

3. I then pay back $450

4. I wait 4.5 years and pay the last $50

 

Is that about right?

 

Oh, the $500 I gave them at the beginning is just sitting there unavailable for 5 years? I get that back when this all over, right? With interest I hope?

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