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Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

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smallfry
Senior Contributor

Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

We know that FICO wants to see at least one major bankcard in order to achieve top scores. I know that Chase and Citi fall in this category but for scoring purposes would AMEX too? 

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pizzadude
Credit Mentor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

 

Yes, I believe that it counts.

March2010 FICO® ~ 695 TU, 653 EQ, 697 EX
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bettercreditguy1
Established Contributor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

Yes, It definitely counts.

Updated scores 3/7/21 TU 849, EQ 829, Ex 818 (all Fico scores) Remember the Three P's: Pay early in Full, Pay on Time, Patience
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AndySoCal
Valued Contributor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

The scoring criteria has some reason(s) related bankcard cards.  FICO does differeniate between bankcards.  It is just a differnet loan trype and no more. After  I posted this I remembered another very informative and interesting post. The link is below

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/VERY-interesting-info-about-FICO-score-po...

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pakman92
Established Contributor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

Is this for real?  FICO cares which bank you do business with?


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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?


@AndySoCal wrote:

The scoring criteria has some reason(s) related bankcard cards.  FICO does differeniate between bankcards.  It is just a differnet loan trype and no more. After  I posted this I remembered another very informative and interesting post. The link is below

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/VERY-interesting-info-about-FICO-score-po...


Could you give a source for this?  I can find nothing in the FICO Risk Score Reason Codes that mentions scoring looking at different bankcards.

 

I went to the link you posted. I will only relate what a high ranking member of myFICO says about the "FICO Scoring Model". Not only is that a "partial" scorecard, it's fake, and used mainly to illustrate how a scorecard works. Do they really think we'd put the real deal out there like that?

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Crashem
Valued Contributor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

FICO scoring doesn't differeniate between issuers, prime or otherwise.  The only time I have heard of any automated system caring about who issued your card is someone once posting that AMEX based on their internal scoring didn't like a particular issuer.  In that case, the person had an open First Premier account.  That wasn't FICO for sure.  I think you should only really worry about who is issuing is in cases of solely bottom of the barrel issuers like first premier, but even then I doubt it is an issue if your FICOs are decent.

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AndySoCal
Valued Contributor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

The purpose of the link is not to calculate the score. but that  FICO does  look at bank card(s) in the score calculation. The other point is too many bank cards also does not help your score.  There are score reasons in the FICO score model related to bank cards. The other misconcpetion is that FICO differenctiate between lenders IE prime and sub prime. The only exception to that is consumer finance companies.

FICO Scores XPN v8 802 V2 831 (SDFCU) TUC 803 v8 EFX 807 (10/2023)
Discover 09/90 19,000, JCPenney 10/2008 4,700 US Bank Cash+ 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 11,100 C State Dept. FCU 15,000 06/2023 , 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 Banking: Ally Bank Credit Unions: Lafayette FCU Quorum FCU State Department FCU State Department FCU Pelican State CU Redstone FCU

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?


@AndySoCal wrote:

The purpose of the link is not to calculate the score. but that  FICO does  look at bank card(s) in the score calculation. The other point is too many bank cards also does not help your score.  There are score reasons in the FICO score model related to bank cards. The other misconcpetion is that FICO differenctiate between lenders IE prime and sub prime. The only exception to that is consumer finance companies.


I agree that FICO definitely looks at bankcards but the part of your post though that I was specfically talking about was this: FICO does differeniate between bankcards

 

I'm wondering what you mean by that. A bankcard is a bankcard.

 

Pardon me for my confusion.

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AndySoCal
Valued Contributor

Re: Can I Assume Amex is a Major Bankcard?

My bad I left a word out.  I should have said does not.

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Discover 09/90 19,000, JCPenney 10/2008 4,700 US Bank Cash+ 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 11,100 C State Dept. FCU 15,000 06/2023 , 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 Banking: Ally Bank Credit Unions: Lafayette FCU Quorum FCU State Department FCU State Department FCU Pelican State CU Redstone FCU

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