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Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason

BrutalBodyShots
Super Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason

The negative reason codes quite clearly point to the CFA data being "seen" on the 16th report but not on the 14th report.  Are these old accounts or new accounts?

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UpAndComing74
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

The negative reason codes quite clearly point to the CFA data being "seen" on the 16th report but not on the 14th report.  Are these old accounts or new accounts?


Oh my! of the 18 closed Affirm accounts.  some were closed in 2017,2018,2019.  The 2 open ones were opened 04/2020 and 09/2020.  So they should have been seen long ago.  Not all of a sudden unless like aforemention they all of a sudden began to "identify" as CFA.  


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Birdman7
Super Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason

The code may have been at number five on the 14th. Have you ever had less than four codes since having one of those?
-Our Community’s updated scoring wisdom: Link to Scoring Primer.
-For Negative Reason Codes see: CassieCard’s Score Factors thread.
-ccquest’s workbook to calculate metrics for you: Link to Workbook.

Correct Ag.Util. under 5% all times. (Oldest/avg varies. Estimates above.)
Real world mortgage maxes are: EQ5-818, TU4-839, EX2-844.

RIP:

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dragontears
Valued Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@UpAndComing74 wrote:

@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

The negative reason codes quite clearly point to the CFA data being "seen" on the 16th report but not on the 14th report.  Are these old accounts or new accounts?


Oh my! of the 18 closed Affirm accounts.  some were closed in 2017,2018,2019.  The 2 open ones were opened 04/2020 and 09/2020.  So they should have been seen long ago.  Not all of a sudden unless like aforemention they all of a sudden began to "identify" as CFA.  


They were always classified as CFA. The reason code was just buried beneath other factors that have a larger impact on your scores. 

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BrutalBodyShots
Super Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@dragontears wrote:


They were always classified as CFA. The reason code was just buried beneath other factors that have a larger impact on your scores. 


That would then mean that between his pull on the 14th and his pull on the 16th, whatever was causing the "bad payment history" reason code to be present would have had to go away.  Also accounts with balances would have had to drop for that to vanish from the list as well.

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UpAndComing74
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@Birdman7 wrote:
The code may have been at number five on the 14th. Have you ever had less than four codes since having one of those?

I have always had 4 codes on my reports.


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UpAndComing74
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Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

@dragontears wrote:


They were always classified as CFA. The reason code was just buried beneath other factors that have a larger impact on your scores. 


That would then mean that between his pull on the 14th and his pull on the 16th, whatever was causing the "bad payment history" reason code to be present would have had to go away.  Also accounts with balances would have had to drop for that to vanish from the list as well.


I REALLYYY wish I could isolate it to bad payment being removed. But the only bad payment I have is a 30 day from 12/2017.  Nothing changed between those 2 days.  Interestengly, the CFA reason moved from bottom to top on Auto and also appeared on Bankcard 2.  Something with the CFA thats sabatoging things it seems.
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UpAndComing74
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Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason

I found this...  Surely AFFIRM ageing a year didnt cause CFA to appear!

 

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Birdman7
Super Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@UpAndComing74 wrote:

I found this...  Surely AFFIRM ageing a year didnt cause CFA to appear!

 

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@UpAndComing74 no, CFA has been there all along imo, it just hasn't been important enough to reach the top four.

-Our Community’s updated scoring wisdom: Link to Scoring Primer.
-For Negative Reason Codes see: CassieCard’s Score Factors thread.
-ccquest’s workbook to calculate metrics for you: Link to Workbook.

Correct Ag.Util. under 5% all times. (Oldest/avg varies. Estimates above.)
Real world mortgage maxes are: EQ5-818, TU4-839, EX2-844.

RIP:

(Everything said is JMHO and is not endorsed by FICO or MF. I have no affiliation with either, just a grateful member.)
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Birdman7
Super Contributor

Re: Experian Mortgage Score DROPPED for now reason


@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

@dragontears wrote:


They were always classified as CFA. The reason code was just buried beneath other factors that have a larger impact on your scores. 


That would then mean that between his pull on the 14th and his pull on the 16th, whatever was causing the "bad payment history" reason code to be present would have had to go away.  Also accounts with balances would have had to drop for that to vanish from the list as well.


@BrutalBodyShots not necessarily, CFA could've became more important for some reason. And now that he's bringing up the date it was opened and it coincides, that's a little much to overlook.

 

@UpAndComing74 What is the age of your youngest Revolver? What's the age of your youngest Account? Do you know your average age of loan accounts?

-Our Community’s updated scoring wisdom: Link to Scoring Primer.
-For Negative Reason Codes see: CassieCard’s Score Factors thread.
-ccquest’s workbook to calculate metrics for you: Link to Workbook.

Correct Ag.Util. under 5% all times. (Oldest/avg varies. Estimates above.)
Real world mortgage maxes are: EQ5-818, TU4-839, EX2-844.

RIP:

(Everything said is JMHO and is not endorsed by FICO or MF. I have no affiliation with either, just a grateful member.)
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