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High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8


@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

Very interesting.  It would be cool to see some more testing on this.  Was it the 58% account crossing the 48.9% threshold?  Perhaps landing somewhere in the 28.9%-48.9% range would be insightful if that's a possibility at some point.


My preference would be to never again have a 58% account Smiley Happy Or an 82% or even a 38% account Smiley Happy

 

This was not a test. Repeat. This was not a test. Smiley Happy


Total revolving limits 654000 (575000 reporting) FICO 8 EQ 714 TU 731 EX 713

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8

Correction @BrutalBodyShots

High credit usage dropped out on EX site but not on MyFICO

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8

Interesting.  Do you usually see a variance across reason statements from the 2 different sources?

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8


@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

Interesting.  Do you usually see a variance across reason statements from the 2 different sources?


I never paid attention to that. But will look into it.

 

Of greater concern to me is that experian.com just wrecked its user interface, by removing the ability to quickly ascertain account balances. Previously, in the "accounts" view, one could readily identify the accounts and the balances, and could easily create different views with the ability to reorder by different variables. All of that functionality is gone, and a fixed list is provided with inadequate account information on each entry and no ability to reorder. This greatly diminishes the value of the experian consumer-facing service.


Total revolving limits 654000 (575000 reporting) FICO 8 EQ 714 TU 731 EX 713

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8

Wow, that sounds like a poor move.  Hopefully enough noise is made to get that issue rectified.

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8


@BrutalBodyShots wrote:

Wow, that sounds like a poor move.  Hopefully enough noise is made to get that issue rectified.


They are so clueless (or indifferent) they do not even provide a place for feedback. So they'll never hear the 'noise'.

 


Total revolving limits 654000 (575000 reporting) FICO 8 EQ 714 TU 731 EX 713

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8

SJ Would you pls list which cards and the corresponding limits for that #1 and #2 card?

Would make sense if highest card was excluded, at least under the conventional theory, but maybe NRB525 is correct.

did you only see score change and reason code shift on version 8?
For a collection of our current FICO scoring wisdom, updated as we learn, read the following. Watch the revision dates on the bottom of the first 8 posts as they are regularly updated: Link to Scoring Primer.


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Updated June 2020, unless otherwise noted. I took an HP on EX, will reflect on next update.

(Forgive typos, mobile.)(Everything said is Just IMHO.)

In order to better answer your questions and record your DPs, please provide your profile stats: Any baddies? Severity and recency? (clean/dirty), Number of accounts, both open and closed on CRs (thick/thin), AoOA? (Mature/young), AOYRA-Age of Youngest Revolving Account (new accounts/no new accounts)? Open/closed loan on CR?
For example, mine is clean/thick/mature/new account, with open loan on record.
If you don't know where you fall, just detail any baddies, your number of open and closed accounts, AoOA, AOYRA and whether you have a loan on record to start.

For utilization questions, list individual and aggregate utilizations, revolving and installment, please.
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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8


@Birdman7 wrote:
SJ Would you pls list which cards and the corresponding limits for that #1 and #2 card?

Would make sense if highest card was excluded, at least under the conventional theory, but maybe NRB525 is correct.

did you only see score change and reason code shift on version 8?

The highest utilization percentages were on smaller limit accounts, one was a 15k account, the other a 10k account.


Total revolving limits 654000 (575000 reporting) FICO 8 EQ 714 TU 731 EX 713

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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8

SJ were they credit union cards?
For a collection of our current FICO scoring wisdom, updated as we learn, read the following. Watch the revision dates on the bottom of the first 8 posts as they are regularly updated: Link to Scoring Primer.


RIP:

    




Updated June 2020, unless otherwise noted. I took an HP on EX, will reflect on next update.

(Forgive typos, mobile.)(Everything said is Just IMHO.)

In order to better answer your questions and record your DPs, please provide your profile stats: Any baddies? Severity and recency? (clean/dirty), Number of accounts, both open and closed on CRs (thick/thin), AoOA? (Mature/young), AOYRA-Age of Youngest Revolving Account (new accounts/no new accounts)? Open/closed loan on CR?
For example, mine is clean/thick/mature/new account, with open loan on record.
If you don't know where you fall, just detail any baddies, your number of open and closed accounts, AoOA, AOYRA and whether you have a loan on record to start.

For utilization questions, list individual and aggregate utilizations, revolving and installment, please.
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Re: High utilization individual accounts & FICO 8


@Birdman7 wrote:
SJ were they credit union cards?

1 was a credit union card

1 was a credit union PLOC

 

I can't imagine why it makes a difference to you.


Total revolving limits 654000 (575000 reporting) FICO 8 EQ 714 TU 731 EX 713

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