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Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

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wednesdayaddamsd
Regular Contributor

Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

Taken on same day-mortgage loan pulls:

 

Myfico TU98:  638

 

Lender TU04:  667

 

CreditKarma TU (Transrisk):  642

 

Myfico Equifax:  635

 

Lender Equifax:  635

 

Experian Plus:  649

 

Experian (Quizzle):  690

 

Experian Lender:  678

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pizzadude
Credit Mentor

Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

 

Very Interesting ~ thanks for posting this !

 

It seems that all of your FICO/FAKO scores are within +- 5% of each other, except for the EX Quizzle FAKO.    Many people see wide variances, 10% or more, between FAKO and FICO scores....

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cashnocredit
Valued Contributor

Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

I've found most FAKOs weigh PRs much differently. To the point that I had a 73 point increase in FICO and nary a blip on almost all FAKOs when an old tax lien was removed. FAKOs can be very far off. A year ago my Score Plus FAKO had me at the (better than) 98% rank order while my EQ FICO had me at 40% (690's). It doesn't get much more different than that.

 

Even VantageScore, which is a valid score some (not many) lenders use, didn't ding me for the old paid lien, so it didn't correlate with my FICO scores.

 

OTOH, Citi's "Identity Monitor" matched reasonably well with EQ and TU FICOs including during the lien changes. Not that that means it will be close with other people.s CRs.

 

 


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wednesdayaddamsd
Regular Contributor

Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

I can't tell you how relieved I was to see how much higher Experian & TU were compared to pitiful Equifax! EQ love, loves, loves to drop my oldest accounts (positive accounts, that is) while TU and EX keep them on for the 10 years past the closing date.

 

So basically EQ is not my favorite CB right now! But I'm just glad I am approved for a mortgage!

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Ms-Kato
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Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos


@wednesdayaddamsd wrote:

I can't tell you how relieved I was to see how much higher Experian & TU were compared to pitiful Equifax! EQ love, loves, loves to drop my oldest accounts (positive accounts, that is) while TU and EX keep them on for the 10 years past the closing date.

 

So basically EQ is not my favorite CB right now! But I'm just glad I am approved for a mortgage!


I agree..EQ will drop good tradelines as soon as they hit the 10 year mark . EX and TU has kept my

good tradelines well past the 10 year mark ...but I found it easier to remove bad tradelines from EQ than EX and TU......EX being the worst !

 

 


 

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wednesdayaddamsd
Regular Contributor

Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

Kato,

 

EQ doesn't just drop at the 10 year mark, they drop loooong before. I still have old student loans that should be reporting until 2015 that are my oldest accounts on Experian and Transunion that Equifax dropped a long time ago. I even had Nelnet re-report the loans which they were kind enough to do, and Equifax still won't report them.

 

I had some older credit cards that still report on TU and EX that were closed just a few years ago, which EQ just mysteriously dropped. I HATE EQUIFAX!

 

Let's just say EQ has had more curse words thrown at it by me over the past 6 months than you probably think exist.  lol....

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Ms-Kato
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Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos


@wednesdayaddamsd wrote:

Kato,

 

EQ doesn't just drop at the 10 year mark, they drop loooong before. I still have old student loans that should be reporting until 2015 that are my oldest accounts on Experian and Transunion that Equifax dropped a long time ago. I even had Nelnet re-report the loans which they were kind enough to do, and Equifax still won't report them.

 

I had some older credit cards that still report on TU and EX that were closed just a few years ago, which EQ just mysteriously dropped. I HATE EQUIFAX!

 

Let's just say EQ has had more curse words thrown at it by me over the past 6 months than you probably think exist.  lol....


Did you contact EQ ?

 

I don't think they are required by law to keep them 10 years .Maybe if you spoke to them and questioned them why

are they removing good tradelines well before the customary 10  year mark you might make some headway .

 

Ask to speak to a supervisor.

 

I wish you the best Smiley Happy

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

On the other hand, Equifax has been known to drop negative information early too. Smiley Happy

 

End of the day, the scores the lender pulls are the only one that matters, but the Equifax Becaon 5.0 found here at myfico is often used by mortgage lenders.  Congrats on the approval!

 

 




        
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wednesdayaddamsd
Regular Contributor

Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

Thank you Revelate. EQ hangs on pretty tightly to my negatives. lol ha hahha.

 

But all that matters is that TU and EX came through high enough to be approved for a mortgage. So I guess all the hoping, praying, waiting, finger crossing for EQ to please give me another 5 points and get to 640 were unnecessary. Who knew?

 

I am super excited to hopefully put an offer in on a home soon. This will be the first home I've ever owned. I've always rented because I'm pretty much useless when it comes to shoveling, mowing lawns, etc. (I have never owned a mower or snowblower).

 

I am kind of scared that I will have to do all of these things for myself now. But at least I'll be doing them in my own house!

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BGinVA
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Re: Lender Scores vs. Myfico & Fakos

Interesting discussion about EQ dropping accounts early.  I pulled my EQ report from this site about 2 weeks ago and they are still reporting 1 account from 1993, 2 accounts from 1999 and 1 account from 2000.  But Transunion is still reporting an old Montgomery Wards credit card from 1986, that EQ isn't. 

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