I am totally confused, would greatly appreciate some insight. I have been working on improving my credit score by paying down my credit cards after having relied on them during difficult time financially. I just put $6000 toward 3 of my 4 credit cards, reducing my overall utilization from 42% to 35% and I'm completely shocked to see my score drop a whopping 50 points from 754 to 694. (4th card is on a different schedule). WHY?
Card 1
Beg Balance 8800
Credit Limit 17000
Payment $4000
Cur Balance $4600
Utilization : 44% to 27%
Card 2
Beg Balance $220
Credit Limit $5500
Payment $200
Cur Util: 0%
Card 3
Beg Balance $2150
Credit Limit $10,000
Payment $1750
Cur Balance $400
Utilization: 11% to 4%
Card 4
Beg Balance $14,600
Credit Limit 24,000
Payment No change
Utilitzation: 62%
@Person10011 wrote:I am totally confused, would greatly appreciate some insight. I have been working on improving my credit score by paying down my credit cards after having relied on them during difficult time financially. I just put $6000 toward 3 of my 4 credit cards, reducing my overall utilization from 42% to 35% and I'm completely shocked to see my score drop a whopping 50 points from 754 to 694. (4th card is on a different schedule). WHY?
Card 1
Beg Balance 8800
Credit Limit 17000
Payment $4000
Cur Balance $4600
Utilization : 44% to 27%
Card 2
Beg Balance $220
Credit Limit $5500
Payment $200
Cur Util: 0%
Card 3
Beg Balance $2150
Credit Limit $10,000
Payment $1750
Cur Balance $400
Utilization: 11% to 4%
Card 4
Beg Balance $14,600
Credit Limit 24,000
Payment No change
Utilitzation: 62%
Where are you getting your scores from, Credit Karma? If yes, do you see the point drop in Equifax or Transunion? With credit scores there is no instance where lowering utilization would cause a decrease in score under any model unless all of your revolving cards reported at zero and/or you paid off an installment loan. Something else is going on but before you panic, tell us which scores you're using. Do you have access to your FICO scores?
yes, you are correct. Those scores are from credit karma which JUST updated, both Equifax and Transunion. My actual Fico from my bank and Experian have not yet been updated with the latest information. Fico 9 with my bank as of 1/22/22 is 768. Fico 8 through Experian as of 2/13/22 is 754.
Did you get those %'s from "See What Changed?" Whats the credit usage say now and before on CK. Dont let those Vantage scores psych you out.
Yes, those numbers come from See What Changed. Overall utilization dropped from 42-35%, each card below
Card 1
Utilization : 44% to 27%
Card 2
Cur Util: 0%
Card 3
Utilization: 11% to 4%
Card 4
Utilitzation: 62%
@Person10011 wrote:I am totally confused, would greatly appreciate some insight. I have been working on improving my credit score by paying down my credit cards after having relied on them during difficult time financially. I just put $6000 toward 3 of my 4 credit cards, reducing my overall utilization from 42% to 35% and I'm completely shocked to see my score drop a whopping 50 points from 754 to 694. (4th card is on a different schedule). WHY?
Card 1
Beg Balance 8800
Credit Limit 17000
Payment $4000
Cur Balance $4600
Utilization : 44% to 27%
Card 2
Beg Balance $220
Credit Limit $5500
Payment $200
Cur Util: 0%
Card 3
Beg Balance $2150
Credit Limit $10,000
Payment $1750
Cur Balance $400
Utilization: 11% to 4%
Card 4
Beg Balance $14,600
Credit Limit 24,000
Payment No change
Utilitzation: 62%
The reduction of aggregate revolving utilization did not cause a score drop in any FICO scores. Something else caused it.
1. What scores are you talking about?
2. Where are you getting them from?
3. What other changes occurred in your reports?
@Person10011 wrote:yes, you are correct. Those scores are from credit karma which JUST updated, both Equifax and Transunion. My actual Fico from my bank and Experian have not yet been updated with the latest information. Fico 9 with my bank as of 1/22/22 is 768. Fico 8 through Experian as of 2/13/22 is 754.
The Credit Karma scores are not FICO scores, and are not meaningful.
one of the first things everyone learns on this site, is that the CK scoring is not able to be explained....
I know - because i was one of them
anytime we see large increases or drops, it is usually a CK Vantage score - their scores swing like nobodies business
start looking at your FICO scores, which are 1. more accurate - 2. don't have unexplained volatility - and 3. are the ACTUAL scores that Lenders use
Thanks for all your replies. FYI - nothing else changed at all. Your point about Vantage vs Fico has been received.
CK is not totally useless though - it is probably one of the best/fastest reporting tracking system
i can do an HP for a new account and usually within a minute or two i have an alert from CK
so we aren't saying it doesnt have its' place - just not for scoring