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Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?

Mine just went up 25 points! Smiley Very Happy No changes really except my inquiries aged a few months?

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Revelate
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?


@Anonymous wrote:

Mine just went up 25 points! Smiley Very Happy No changes really except my inquiries aged a few months?


Over a few months?  A lot of things can change in that amount of time Smiley Happy.

 

I wouldn't be looking to inquiries personally unless several aged out.  Nothing intrinsic on time of month other than your individual file's reporting data.




        
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Anonymous
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?


@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Mine just went up 25 points! Smiley Very Happy No changes really except my inquiries aged a few months?


Over a few months?  A lot of things can change in that amount of time Smiley Happy.

 

I wouldn't be looking to inquiries personally unless several aged out.  Nothing intrinsic on time of month other than your individual file's reporting data.


None of the inquiries went past 6 months. I think I have 5 inquiries on Experian. My oldest 4/15. So I have no idea. Just went up 25 points in 1 day. Nothing else changed.

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Mine just went up 25 points! Smiley Very Happy No changes really except my inquiries aged a few months?


Over a few months?  A lot of things can change in that amount of time Smiley Happy.

 

I wouldn't be looking to inquiries personally unless several aged out.  Nothing intrinsic on time of month other than your individual file's reporting data.


None of the inquiries went past 6 months. I think I have 5 inquiries on Experian. My oldest 4/15. So I have no idea. Just went up 25 points in 1 day. Nothing else changed.


I doubt inquiries have any age factor other than the 1 year mark where they stop counting completely.  

 

25 points personally I'd be looking for a change in utilization (revolving or installment if we are talking FICO 8) or something fell off my report or some tradeline is reporting subtly differently.  Not everything is tracked by the monitoring solutions which simply aren't granular enough to catch some things, but something occurred to make that large of a change.

 

What date was your last reported score before this most recent?

 




        
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Anonymous
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?


@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Mine just went up 25 points! Smiley Very Happy No changes really except my inquiries aged a few months?


Over a few months?  A lot of things can change in that amount of time Smiley Happy.

 

I wouldn't be looking to inquiries personally unless several aged out.  Nothing intrinsic on time of month other than your individual file's reporting data.


None of the inquiries went past 6 months. I think I have 5 inquiries on Experian. My oldest 4/15. So I have no idea. Just went up 25 points in 1 day. Nothing else changed.


I doubt inquiries have any age factor other than the 1 year mark where they stop counting completely.  

 

25 points personally I'd be looking for a change in utilization (revolving or installment if we are talking FICO 8) or something fell off my report or some tradeline is reporting subtly differently.  Not everything is tracked by the monitoring solutions which simply aren't granular enough to catch some things, but something occurred to make that large of a change.

 

What date was your last reported score before this most recent?

 


I thought inquires only affected score for 6 months.

 

This was literally in 1 day. My score on 7/31 was 721 from Experian. 8/1 - 746. Utilization is the same. No alerts about anything account related in that time. Only 1 on how my score went from Good to Very Good and another about my score going up 25 points. Getting info from CCT. Sadly, I've love to get my other 2 scores right now. But I can't until another 14 days! Smiley Sad Seriously the only change is the new month!

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IncrsCreditScore1
Valued Contributor

Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?

@anon - you made the statement, "I thought inquires only affected score for 6 months."  That is not correct; inquiries have significant impact on the score for one year, the impact is not so significant after the first year.

January 2018 Scores - EQ 797 | TU 800 | EX 798 | ~~Started Gardening Again on March 21, 2017
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Anonymous
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?

 

Experian considers all your cards to have been opened on the 1st of the month in the month they were opened -- have a look at account opened date, you will see on EX that it's always the 1st, regardless of what the actual day was. This is true on EQ as well but I think TU actually uses the real opening day. 

 

So......

 

Take a look at two things: What happened to the age of your OLDEST account on that one day? And what happened to your AAoA on that one day?

 

Both those numbers at EQ change only on the 1st of a month. I would bet you find your answer as to why your score went up--something hit a nice round number? 

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Anonymous
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?


@Anonymous wrote:

 

Experian considers all your cards to have been opened on the 1st of the month in the month they were opened -- have a look at account opened date, you will see on EX that it's always the 1st, regardless of what the actual day was. This is true on EQ as well but I think TU actually uses the real opening day. 

 

So......

 

Take a look at two things: What happened to the age of your OLDEST account on that one day? And what happened to your AAoA on that one day?

 

Both those numbers at EQ change only on the 1st of a month. I would bet you find your answer as to why your score went up--something hit a nice round number? 


Good to know about inquiries affecting up to a year.

 

Oldest Account
13.2 year(s)
Date Opened
06/01/2002 (Closed on 4/15/15, but Experian treats this as 4/1/15?)
 
Nex Oldest Account
Date Opened
07/01/2003 (Open)
 
Average Account Age
4.1 year(s)
 
So doesn't seem to be there. It must be something that happened in August or September? I'll look around.
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Anonymous
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?

Regarding the effect of inq, my score bumps up every 6 months by different amounts. I guess 6 month and 1 yr just have diferent weighting on their effects but inqs usually affect the score until they are aged out for 2 yr monitoring time, I think,

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NRB525
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Re: Score usually go up at the beginning of the month?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

 

Experian considers all your cards to have been opened on the 1st of the month in the month they were opened -- have a look at account opened date, you will see on EX that it's always the 1st, regardless of what the actual day was. This is true on EQ as well but I think TU actually uses the real opening day. 

 

So......

 

Take a look at two things: What happened to the age of your OLDEST account on that one day? And what happened to your AAoA on that one day?

 

Both those numbers at EQ change only on the 1st of a month. I would bet you find your answer as to why your score went up--something hit a nice round number? 


Good to know about inquiries affecting up to a year.

 

Oldest Account
13.2 year(s)
Date Opened
06/01/2002 (Closed on 4/15/15, but Experian treats this as 4/1/15?)
 
Nex Oldest Account
Date Opened
07/01/2003 (Open)
 
Average Account Age
4.1 year(s)
 
So doesn't seem to be there. It must be something that happened in August or September? I'll look around.

Well, oldest cards are nice to know, but you have recent INQ. That implies recently opened CC as well.

What are the opening dates for each of the newer cards, those under 2 years?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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