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oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

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Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough


villemiami wrote:

The first one was a Paypal extras mastercard, I had it for 7 months, I paid everything in time. The second one was a Aadvantage Citi mastercard, I had it for 8 months and half, I closed it 2 weeks ago.

I applied today at Costco and I got the Costco credit card. Next time I apply for a new credit card in a few months, I will keep my Costco credit card.


Congratulations on the Costco card. Smiley Happy

 

My question was when you opened the closed cards. If you could list your cards, open and closed, along with their opening dates, closing dates, and limits, we can offer much more specific help. A format like this is used a lot:

 

PayPal Extras MasterCard: Date opened ?, Date Closed ? Limit ?

Citi AAdvantage: Date Opened ?, Date Closed ? Limit ?

Citi Costco: Opened Jan 2018, still open, Limit ?

 

Filling in the blanks where I've left questions marks will help us help you.

 

Right now, everyone's kind of stabbing in the dark with general advice, and you're stabbing in the dark with applications. For instance, Chase is a tough bank to get into, but it's not so tough if you play your cards right. They like to see a history of a certain length, not too many recent accounts or applications, and limits that indicate that you can handle the card you're applying for. Other banks and cards are much easier. We'd like to offer suggestions that will keep you from walking into denials.

 

As mentioned above, you probably want to build your profile so you have at least three cards. How you go about this depends on which cards you're interested in. If you know you'd like to app with Chase, for instance, you need to work slowly and not grab too many cards right away. If Chase doesn't interest you, you can work somewhat more quickly.

 

Definitely don't close your only card until you have its successor. And actually, unless you're having a bad experience with a bank or you're paying an annual fee that isn't benefiting you, you shouldn't close cards until you have at least three — and preferably five.

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Member

Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

OK, I understand. Here is the information I have for now:

PayPal Extras MasterCard: Date opened:10/14/2016, Date Closed: 4/17/17

Citi AAdvantage: Date Opened: 4/10/17, Date Closed:12/26/17

Citi Costco: Opened 1/12/2018, still open

Message 12 of 20
Regular Contributor

Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

In the future don’t close cards unless there is a fee you are trying to avoid at least until you have an aged profile years from now. There are plenty of articles out there why you don’t close credit cards. FICO systems love to see different types of credit on your profile. And they love to see revolvers. If you look up AZERO method you will see that for starters it’s good to see three credit cards on your profile and only one showing a balance less than 8.9%. And longer term you get a boost with five credit cards all older than 24 months. Only one of five showing a balance. That’s a good start for the revolver section of your credit report. Grasshopper credit is a marathon. Not a sprint :-) always pay your bills and the different use of different types of loans will happen naturally over time.



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Message 13 of 20
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Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

OK thank you

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Community Leader
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Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough


villemiami wrote:

OK, I understand. Here is the information I have for now:

PayPal Extras MasterCard: Date opened:10/14/2016, Date Closed: 4/17/17

Citi AAdvantage: Date Opened: 4/10/17, Date Closed:12/26/17

Citi Costco: Opened 1/12/2018, still open


That helps a lot. If you can add in the limits on those cards at some point, that'll be helpful too.

 

For future apps, you need to decide how important Chase is to you. They have a rule known as 5/24. If you've opened 5 or more cards in the past 24 months, you'll automatically be denied. Some cards aren't included in 5/24, though. I don't have that information at my fingertips, but someone else might. As mentioned, they also like to see at least a year of history. Given that you were recently denied by Chase for a short history, I'd give it at least six months if you want to try again.

 

If you're not interested in Chase for the time being, you can probably go ahead and apply for another card or two relatively soon. Possibilities might include Capital One Quicksilver or Savor (definitely NOT Venture at this time), Bank of America Cash Rewards, AMEX, or Discover.

 

The reason that knowing your limits is important is that some cards have minimum credit limits. For instance, Chase Sapphire Preferred and Capital One Venture have minimum credit limits of $5,000. If you haven't had "experience" with $5,000 limits, you're likely to walk into a denial until someone else gives you a limit in that range first.

Message 15 of 20
Member

Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

Here is a summary of my credit cards:

PayPal Extras MasterCard: Date opened:10/14/2016, Date Closed: 4/17/17

Citi AAdvantage: Date Opened: 4/10/17, Date Closed:12/26/17

Citi Costco: Opened 1/12/2018, still open, credit limit: $4900

 

I'd like to apply to a Gold Delta SkyMiles® Credit Card from American Express. Can I do it now?

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Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough


@villemiamiwrote:

I started only recently to use credit cards. The first one was a Paypal extras mastercard, I had it for 7 months, I paid everything in time. The second one was a Aadvantage Citi mastercard, I had it for 8 months and half and only once, I paid too late so I had a $25 penalty. I closed my citi account and asked for a Disney Chase visa card, it was denied because:

Insufficient credit information

Oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

Too few accounts on file for a sufficient length of time

 

My FICO score is 706.

 

If I knew that, I should have first apply for the Disney card, then cancel my Aadvantage card.

My first choice would be to get a United airlines credit card, but it's with Chase, and Chase just denied me the Disney card. So I don't think I should loose my time to apply for it. Am I right?

So my second choice would be to apply for an Allegiant World Mastercard. Do you think that it will work?

If you think that I cannot get the Allegiant card, I would apply for a Costco Citi visa card, because I'm a Costco member for many years.

 


You're wasting your time with Chase right now. Chase is believed to have a policy of giving cards only to people with a one year credit card history.

 

I know nothing about Allegiant or Costco.


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Message 17 of 20
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Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough


@villemiamiwrote:

The first one was a Paypal extras mastercard, I had it for 7 months, I paid everything in time. The second one was a Aadvantage Citi mastercard, I had it for 8 months and half, I closed it 2 weeks ago.

I applied today at Costco and I got the Costco credit card. Next time I apply for a new credit card in a few months, I will keep my Costco credit card.


Congratulations.

 

 


FICO8 EQ 769 TU 789 EX 764 Total revolving limits 569900 (484900 reporting)
Message 18 of 20
Member

Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

The Gold Delta SkyMiles® Credit Card is not from Chase, but from American Express.

Message 19 of 20
Member

Re: oldest revolving account has not been opened long enough

I couldnt wait, I applied for the Gold Delta SkyMiles® Credit Card  and I was approved! I'm very happy about it.

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