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scottwagnon
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Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull

it appears that capone is hardpulling on the preapproval sites, just a heads up. DON'T USE THIS SITE! i just realized i have two hard pulls! oh no is right!

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john398
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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull


scottwagnon wrote:

it appears that capone is hardpulling on the preapproval sites, just a heads up. DON'T USE THIS SITE! i just realized i have two hard pulls! oh no is right!


This might be an odd question but with score of 770 why are you wanting an Orchard card?

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webhopper
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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull

Think of pre approval sites as a calamine lotion for those of us who get the app itch. you get the glory from approval with none of the harmful side.effects (new accounts/inqs)

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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull

LOL @ Web!!


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john398
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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull


webhopper wrote:
Think of pre approval sites as a calamine lotion for those of us who get the app itch. you get the glory from approval with none of the harmful side.effects (new accounts/inqs)

Ok I can see that on a prime card like American Express or Discover with his scores just not sure with  orchard

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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull


john398 wrote:

webhopper wrote:
Think of pre approval sites as a calamine lotion for those of us who get the app itch. you get the glory from approval with none of the harmful side.effects (new accounts/inqs)

Ok I can see that on a prime card like American Express or Discover with his scores just not sure with  orchard


It's like outpatient treatment. :smileyhappy:


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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull

 

Several people have complained recently that the HSBC/Orchard "pre~approval" site is doing hard pulls, but the website they are using is page 1 of a credit card application.    Anytime you are filling in an application there is a potential that they are going to pull your credit, especially if you are entering a SSN and mother's maiden name and other personal info like that.

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Creditaddict
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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull


pizzadude wrote:

 

Several people have complained recently that the HSBC/Orchard "pre~approval" site is doing hard pulls, but the website they are using is page 1 of a credit card application.    Anytime you are filling in an application there is a potential that they are going to pull your credit, especially if you are entering a SSN and mother's maiden name and other personal info like that.


While normally I might agree that you are entering a lot of information you should at least think it's possible but it's ALWAYS been this long application for pre-approval with Orchard, Best Buy MC (back when) and it always stated this is just a pre-approval and will not impact your credit if you don't apply for offer...

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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull


drkaje wrote:

john398 wrote:

webhopper wrote:
Think of pre approval sites as a calamine lotion for those of us who get the app itch. you get the glory from approval with none of the harmful side.effects (new accounts/inqs)

Ok I can see that on a prime card like American Express or Discover with his scores just not sure with  orchard


It's like outpatient treatment. :smileyhappy:


I've done it with Orchard :smileywink: before I went on my app spree and picked up Zync, Chase Amazon Visa, and NFCU cashRewards... I thought of it as building my credit self esteem before apping!

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scottwagnon
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Re: Warning: Orchard Bank Preapproval a Hard Pull


Creditaddict wrote:

pizzadude wrote:

 

Several people have complained recently that the HSBC/Orchard "pre~approval" site is doing hard pulls, but the website they are using is page 1 of a credit card application.    Anytime you are filling in an application there is a potential that they are going to pull your credit, especially if you are entering a SSN and mother's maiden name and other personal info like that.


While normally I might agree that you are entering a lot of information you should at least think it's possible but it's ALWAYS been this long application for pre-approval with Orchard, Best Buy MC (back when) and it always stated this is just a pre-approval and will not impact your credit if you don't apply for offer...


please note i am NOT speaking of this site https://www.partnercardapply.com/start/hsbccreditcard a backdoor application which makes it somewhat clear that it is in fact an application and not a preapproval.

 

this is the orchard site that has allowed in the past to see if you prequalify for one of their cards which has always resulted in a soft pull. will now that capone has this, they are hardpulling eq only just for you to see if you qualify for any of the orchard card.

 

yes, webhopper is correct. unfortunately, now it is no longer safe to do this. thanks alot capone! i am disputing this, i hope i get lucky, but i doubt i will.

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