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beach123,
With LVNV, or another other CA or JDB, rules don't change.
DV a CA and dispute with the CRA.
Give 'em 30 days. If they don't validate, and the TL is still there, send 'em a second DV letter.
If the CRAs verify, then pursue MOV.
Understand that with validation, should they fail to validate, they are not allowed to pursue ANY collection efforts. Some courts have ruled that ANY communication to you with anything other than validation is a violation--including letters to you for more information or even statements that they are "still attempting to obtain" validation. Not positive, but I think that was in Guerrero v. RJM. Ninth Circuit still has not issue an opinion on the appeal.
With some of these JDB nitwits, you have to be willing to collect a paper trail and sue.