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Getting close, what are my chances

 

  1. Credit.  What are your credit scores and if you have any, what negatives (collections, charge-offs, late payments, BK's, judgments, tax liens, back owed child support, etc.) are on are credit and if they are owing or not.  When were the negatives, this is important, month/year is preferred, such as 3/07.  For BK's the Ch, filing & discharge date.  Even if credit isn't less than perfect, if you only have credit for a short period of time (<24 months), authorized user accounts (which aren't considered by underwriting), accounts from your father with the same exact name because you are a Jr., etc. that is important information to know too.

I'm just going off of scores shown by my credit cards:

TU: 750  Exp: 708  EQ:  698  Wife is in the 730 range across the board.

 

Negatives:  30 day late from BestBuy card 1/14 (card is paid in full with a $1,500 credit line)

                       30 day late from Wells Fargo 6/09  (card was paid in full and account closed 2/10)

 

  1. Income.  Gross income is what is important when qualifying, not net income.  For self-employed/1099'd people it's your gross income minus expenses/write-offs, adding back in depreciation/depletion.  I know this is pretty sensitive for some people to list their income, but remember this board is anonymous (for those of you who want to remain that way).  If you don't want to list your income, and just want to receive advice without addressing that part of qualifying (which is very major), just say you have enough income, no one will pass judgment, but realize the advice given might not be able to be complete.

My Income:  $94,588 per year.

Wife's Income:  $107,520 per year

Total:  $202,108

 

Income has a few caveats.  I will have worked at my current job for 2 years this coming July.  At that point, they can count my bonus (~20% on top of what I listed for income).  Wife doesn't start work until August (she's graduating and has an offer letter), and I factored low on her income.  I suspect it will be closer to $130k per year.

 

  1. Source of income.  Where is the income coming from?  Employment, pension, social security, disability, foster care, VA benefits, rental income, lottery income, etc.  If it's from employment, is it salary, hourly, overtime, bonus, commission, etc.

My income is salaried, and my wife's income is production based, but has a minimum hourly rate guaranteed.  The number above is factoring just the minimum hourly rate.

 

  1. Monthly debt payments.  This goes hand in hand with income and the new mortgage payment to determine your debt to income (DTI) ratio.  Only items on credit is the general rule, but also items such as alimony, child support, union dues and some other work related expenses are included too.  Only the minimum required payment amount is what underwriters are concerned with.  Items such as utilities, cell phone, insurance, etc. are not included in the DTI.  If you have a question if something is included just ask.

Monthly debt - $1,365.  I only included minimum credit card payments, student loans, and car payments.  Do I need to include anything else? (rent, DirecTV or Comcast)

 

  1. Employment (for those who are employed).  What type of employment such as self-employed, S-corp, W-2'd, 1099'd, part-time, full time, 2nd job, etc.  How long have you been on the job & how long have you been in the industry.  A 2 year employment history is what most loan programs require.  For those who have been self-employed less than 2 years, what did you do before your venture?  For those of you who have less than 2 years employment history, did you graduate from a higher education school before you started working?

I've been employed for nearly 2 years at my present job.  It will be over 2 years by the time we'll be closing, and I've been in the same industry for 10+ years.  My wife (as mentioned above) won't start work until August, but according to our Credit Union, her being in school for the last 4 years counts.

 

  1. Assets/Reserves.  This is to determine how much you could potentially have as a down payment and also as reserves to help qualify (for example if your debt to income ratio is high this could help qualify you anyway).  Savings, checking, 401k, IRA, stocks, bonds, CD's, mutual funds, money market accounts, gift, etc. all can qualify.  If it is a pension or retirement account that does not permit you to withdraw or take a loan against (other than for hardship), and is only able to be used after you quit or retire, then it cannot be used as reserves.

$20k in the bank.  Putting $15k down (to start the build process).  About $20k in eligible 401k amounts (I'm counting 70% of the vested amounts)

 

  1. Location.  What state & county.  City or zip if you want but usually that is not needed.  This is to determine FHA loan limits, what special programs might be available for you, how much property taxes & homeowners insurance will likely be, amongst other items.

Douglas County, CO 

 

  1. Property.  Is it a single family house, condo, townhome, 2-4 units, 5+ units, manufactured home, a co-op, condotel, the penthouse of a 45 story apartment building, suburban, rural, a lot of acres, a working farm, a gas station, etc.  Also the condition of the property is helpful, as lenders have certain minimum requirements properties must meet (working utilities, etc.).

Semi Custom Build from the dirt up.  Single Family House

 

  1. Value.  For a purchase transaction, what is the home price range you are looking in, narrowed it down to, or are under contract for... and for a refinance transaction what is the appraised value of the home and when did you purchase your home.

$600k-$650k

 

  1. Occupancy.  Primary residence, vacation/2nd home, non-owner/rental property.

Primary Residence

 

  1. Transaction Type.  Is it a purchase, refinance just for better terms, refinance to take cash out, looking for a 2nd mortgage, a reverse mortgage, etc.

Purchase

 

Additional Notes:

 

Hopefully this builder just needs a pre-qual letter to get the build process started.  If so, we won't need to actually go through the full process (credit pulls, and verifications) until the house would be done (Sometime between Dec 2015 and Feb 2016).  If that's the case, we will have more debt paid off, my salary will likely be higher, and credit scores will be higher as well.   If not, we will need to go off the numbers listed above.

 

We are most likely going with a 100% loan from Navy Federal.

 

What are our chances?

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

I'd get more advice on wife's job status.   A 600k mortgage supported by a 2 month old job income might be something that will need to looked at.

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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

Yes, they normally want at least 2 yrs at the same job.  My hubby & I built our dream home a little over 3 yrs ago.  The money in the bank & job are the 2 biggies along with your great credit score!  

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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

"Hopefully this builder just needs a pre-qual letter to get the build process started.  If so, we won't need to actually go through the full process (credit pulls, and verifications) until the house would be done (Sometime between Dec 2015 and Feb 2016).  If that's the case, we will have more debt paid off, my salary will likely be higher, and credit scores will be higher as well.   If not, we will need to go off the numbers listed above."

 

I'm not sure about this process.  I was thinking on a new build, they wanted to be pretty sure about the money before they broke ground=some kind of underwriting.  I submitted all kinds of docs in the pre approval, and answered a bunch of questions.  Big differene in prequal and pre approval, but builders can differ from each other.

 

Income was one of the most throughly investigated aspects of my loan.  My wife and I each have looong work history (wife on her same job 33 years, and I retired after a 27 year career and on state pension for 10 years.  I was asked to send in W2s, 1040s, bank statements, pay stubs, and 3 years of paperwork from the retirement system.  Because my wife works for a public agency, and is eligible to retire with a state pension, she was asked if she was contemplating retiring anytime soon.  When she answered yes LO told her don't even think about it till we close. LOL.  She told them a pension check is a guranteed lifetime check not like she is unemployed, didn't matter, they would need at least 3 months of sustained retirement income to clear it if she retired.

 

Because I had all that info on hand and ready, I was pre approved quickly, despite not having much money in the bank.  I suggest having your income supported before applying.  I'm just saying a fresh out of school new hire, name going on a 600k+ mortgage, is going to be vetted.  

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Lemmus
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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

...the wife's "potential" income will likely be a major problem ...hopefully her new job is in the same field as her degree program ...in that case, it will be up to the underwriter to decide whether to allow ...if its not in the same field, I'd think they count only the one income ...ymmv of course ...hth


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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

Had no problem getting a pre-qual letter, and signed the paperwork last night.  Now the long wait for it to be built.

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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

So you're done with the initial underwriting?  I'm confused.  I was thinking prequal and pre approved were not the same, but maybe I was wrong?

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Lemmus
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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

...they're not the same bama but lots of home sale contracts are signed with just a pre-qual ...then the fun begins


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Anonymous
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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

Oh ok, I just didn't they'd start a build till they were really sure about the money.

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Lemmus
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Re: Getting close, what are my chances

...home listings are low in a growing number of markets so you have more builders coming back into the market building new homes without even a prospective buyer signed up yet ...so yeah, a pre-qual will make some builders very happy


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