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My 9 year old, high mileage car died suddenly and will cost more to repair than it would have been worth on trade-in if it was running, so I need to buy a used car this week. My two previous car loans were captive financing of new cars with FICO scores in the 700s, so this is my first time buying a car under less-than-great credit score circumstances and without a large down payment/trade in. It's a lot more stressful than before.
As of today, my FICO 8 scores are 639 EQ/642 TU/643 EXP, with FICO Auto 8 scores at 651 EQ/649 TU/672 EXP. The reason the scores are so low is that I happen to have very high utilization at the moment (87%) due to having to replace our home's heating system mid-winter (long story) and repairs to my husband's car. We had just started an aggressive debt payoff plan last month and then this happened to throw a wrench into those plans.
No lates, but it looks like I have one small ($120) medical debt in collections from 2013. I didn't know this until I pulled my credit report yesterday, because I haven't needed to apply for credit since 2012 when we refinanced our mortgage - I know it's hurting my scores but I won't have a chance to address it before I need to get financed (in the next 2 days). I'm chalking that up to an expensive lesson learned.
We only have $2000-2200 available for a down payment and unfortunately I don't expect to get much of anything for trade-in value out of the car with the blown engine. On the plus side, my salary is $94K/year and I've been at my job for over 14 years. My current DTI (mortgage, student loan, minimums on all revolving lines) is 25% and with the maximum car payment we'd be comfortable with right now, my DTI would be up to a maximum of 30%.
I went ahead and did the Capital One Auto Navigator pre-qualification (the dealership where I serviced the car with the blown engine participates). To my surprise given my mediocre scores, they pre-qualified me with APRs ranging from 3.89-5.03%, depending on which vehicle I'm modeling. Are these APRs legit? Also, the pre-qual letter doesn't say how much I can borrow - am I likely to get the $18-20K loan that I'd like, or should I prepare myself to maybe end up needing to choose a less-expensive car?
Anyone who's had positive or negative experiences with the Capital One pre-qual, I'd love to hear about it. I figure that if nothing else, it makes a handy negotiating tool.
Log in to the Capital One Autonavigator website they user your last name, zip and last 4 of ssn to login. there should be more details there on your prequalification. But from everything I have seen on here the rates are usually solid. it'll depend on the car, but you can build a deal right on the website and search for cars in their dealer network. To give you a better idea of overall cost and payment. Rate will change with amount down and term.
Cap 1 is dead to me... just paid off $18k loan 2 years early and got denied for new auto loan for me and my wife... **bleep**??? kudos for getting approved with them.
@jgdev wrote:Log in to the Capital One Autonavigator website they user your last name, zip and last 4 of ssn to login. there should be more details there on your prequalification. But from everything I have seen on here the rates are usually solid. it'll depend on the car, but you can build a deal right on the website and search for cars in their dealer network. To give you a better idea of overall cost and payment. Rate will change with amount down and term.
I logged into the Auto Navigator and was able to build the deal on the website for the car I'm trying to purchase - it gave me 3.89% APR and let me print the summary for the dealership. I didn't take delivery today because I needed to get back to the office, so they're handling the financing and insurance today and I'm supposed to pick up tomorrow. I know from Credit Karma that the dealer did a hard pull with Capital One (also Wells Fargo, TD Bank, and a local credit union).
I'm not stressing about the APR as much as being able to borrow what I need ($20K). I'm just worried that I'll go in tomorrow to pick up the car, only to be told that there was a problem and I will have lost my "non-refundable" deposit/down payment. They ran my credit 5 hours ago and my insurance agent called a few hours ago to confirm the policy change to the new vehicle - I assume if they couldn't get me financed, the dealership would have contacted me by now, right?
I used to work in the car industry. We would never contact the insurance company unless all the paperwork and financing is good. Not worth the effort faxing stuff. (yes insurance companies still use fax for some reason) YMMV but from my point of view it looks like you are in the clear.
If Cap1 pre-quals you, you're good to go. The only wrench in the works will be when they do the hard pull. If there's been a negative change to your reports since the pre-qual, the rate may go up on the offer. On the flip side, if you have positive changes, the rate may go down.

@Anonymous wrote:I logged into the Auto Navigator and was able to build the deal on the website for the car I'm trying to purchase - it gave me 3.89% APR and let me print the summary for the dealership. I didn't take delivery today because I needed to get back to the office, so they're handling the financing and insurance today and I'm supposed to pick up tomorrow. I know from Credit Karma that the dealer did a hard pull with Capital One (also Wells Fargo, TD Bank, and a local credit union).
I'm not stressing about the APR as much as being able to borrow what I need ($20K). I'm just worried that I'll go in tomorrow to pick up the car, only to be told that there was a problem and I will have lost my "non-refundable" deposit/down payment. They ran my credit 5 hours ago and my insurance agent called a few hours ago to confirm the policy change to the new vehicle - I assume if they couldn't get me financed, the dealership would have contacted me by now, right?
You should have stressed to the finance manager that he's NOT to run your credit. That was the whole point of you getting prequalified by Capital One. And on top of that, they hard pulled you with CapOne again? Not cool. He's just hoping he can qualify you at another bank so that he can get his finder's fee and if he's really lucky, markup the interest a bit and make monthly residuals off you.
Interesting about them contacting your insurance... I have NEVER had any dealer contact my insurance. They want to see proof of insurance, but they've never contacted them on my behalf. Nor would I really want them to... Is this a state-specific process?
Total Cards: 24 | Total Limit: $304,250
Current FICO 8 Scores: EQ: 841| TU: 815 | EX: 814
Hard Inquiries: 1
I know in Massachusetts atleast dealers need to get an RMV-1 form stamped by someone at the insurance agency to be able to register the car at all. So common practice was when getting the car ready to fax the insurance company with all of the deal information including the lien holder etc and an RMV-1 form filled out without the stamp and signature and we would get that back and hand in all the documents to our on site registry to either get plates or the new registration. Not sure where the OP lives but in MA this is common place as insurance is required to operate a vehichle in MA.
I stressed out for nothing - I was financed through Capital One at the exact terms from the pre-qual "build your deal" in Auto Navigator - 3.89% APR. My payment is exactly what I expected it to be.
I'm very pleased with my new vehicle! Now I'm focusing on paying down my card balances to get utilization down and figure out how the hell that medical collection got on my report. I've learned a really valuable lesson about keeping an eye on one's credit report and scores.
@jgdev wrote:I know in Massachusetts atleast dealers need to get an RMV-1 form stamped by someone at the insurance agency to be able to register the car at all. So common practice was when getting the car ready to fax the insurance company with all of the deal information including the lien holder etc and an RMV-1 form filled out without the stamp and signature and we would get that back and hand in all the documents to our on site registry to either get plates or the new registration. Not sure where the OP lives but in MA this is common place as insurance is required to operate a vehichle in MA.
Yes, it's the same here in CT. The DMV won't allow a car to be registered without proof of insurance; I have temporary cards now and the real thing will come in the mail in the next few days.