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Hey guys, I live in Washington state but I was looking at leasing a 2018 Range Rover Velar from dealer in California. After going back and forth for over two weeks we finally agreed on a number. Dealer had asked me for my beacon score from Experian, which i thought was simply myfico auto score 8 or 2 (older version). Anyways when i pulled up the score on 09/27, it showed 738 for auto score 8 and 713 for auto score 2, which (according to the dealer) should qualify me for tier 1 rates. However, today when dealership pulled my report, they said that my beacon is at 660 (tier 3 = $47/month difference). I spoke with the finance manager and he said that he is not able to share the report with me unless i come in to the dealership (umm..1200 miles away dude!) but after a lengthy discussion he told me that beacon = auto score 2 from experian. He asked me to send over my scores to him and that he will call the bank tomorrow to verify. I even pulled up auto scores directly from Experian and results are exactly the same as myfico.
I am wondering if you anyone else has experienced similar issue and if i should even bother getting my hopes up. Also does anyone know if beacon score = auto score 2 or different?
Thanks in advance!
I would recommend pulling your 3 B report here and see if the 660 comes up in one of the versions. This will be your true FICO scores and versions. I did not think you could pull all (official Auto, Credit Card, Mortgage etc) FICO versions from Experian.
Also, I believe banks can have their own overlay or template that will give them a different score because it may weigh things differently.
Typically the Money Factor is not necessarily better from dealer to dealer per se. But money factor can be marked up just like traditional financing at a dealership. Each vehicle has a set MF from the lease lender (from here dealer can mark it up), but it can vary depending on your geographical region, just as rebates on purchasing vehicle varies by region. Hence why you might see a MF difference in different states. Just my $.02 having worked in the automotive industry for almost 10 years.
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By the way I found out that land rover/Chase's tier I & II is are same rate. Another thing im really surprised to learn is that MF, residuals and score requirements for different tiers can vary from dealer to dealer. In Seattle MF was .00541 (12.99% APR = HORRIBLE), 53% residual & required 700+ fico to be considered tier I, vs. Pasadena .0007 (1.68% APR), 55% residual and 730+ fico for tier I. In NY, land rover of huntington, offered the best MF of .0003 (.72% APR) with 57% residual value but 750+ fico to qualify for top tier. Their sister dealership in glenn cove (same owner) didnt have same offer (apparently only handul of dealers are offered this privilage by chase) but close to what i got in pasadena. Unfortunately neither dealetship were willing to sell me a car since i dont live in ny city/long island area. Apparently land rover discourage or may be even prohibits dealers from selling to out of state customers due to the whole "people reselling and exporting to Asia" issue. But luckily if you go through a good broker they can get around this issue. The broker in LA area was super amazing! Not sure if im able to mention them in my posts so I leave out that info.
This is interesting...as mentioned, dealers do mark up the MF and this allows profit on the backend of the loan, especially if the car was heavily discounted from the MSRP. Not sure why there are differences in residual values if all those posted are for the same mileage. Maybe Land Rover Finance AKA Chase publishes regional residuals but for the most part its national.