New Vehicles above MSRP?

[CreditCuriosity]

If you want MSRP special order your vehicle.  Pretty sure dealership have to obide by MSRP if you do that.  Not many want to help I found out when shopping for new car on ordering a car as they couldnt do their shady mark-up over MSRP stuff, but that is an option to get MSRP(in theory) although depending on car might need to wait 3-9 months.

Bought a new car a few months back I could of paid about 15k over msrp near me or take a 140 miles drive to a dealership with integerity that was willing to sell at MSRP a few options different, but preffered option/color at other dealership so drove the extra 140 miles and told over MSRP dealership you will never get business from me or anyone I know.  It will come back and byte many of them in the longterm for their shorterm greed and taking advantage of market conditions.

[dunn2500]

i have purchased and sold 5 new trucks since 2019 and working on my 6th.......it is possible to get deals but you have to put in some work, i sold 4 of those for 3-4k profit and 1 for 1k profit....all bought brand new and sold 6 months later avg.....so i rented them basically

it really just depends, and yeah i spent alot of time researching and contacting dealers....its basic common sense and good negotiating skills, and patience....most people including myself (in the beginning) dont do well under fast paced sales tactics, so i learned to slow it down, do everything pretty much online.......and let a deal come to me instead of forcing one on a dealership that doesnt want or need to give one......its a game, and like anything practice makes anyone better......no matter what always be polite

[Brucemac]

We want a 2023 Suburban so badly but the dealership where we live is charging $10k over MSRP!! There is no way I will pay over MSRP. This is a want fortunately and not a need.  Looking online I've found some dealerships within a 200 mile radius that are not charging over MSRP. They're in a different state and it's a hassle then trying to get it registered here in Maryland (we have personalized tags we want to keep).  I would go on the manufacturer's website and just do a search and see what you can find. 

Side note: I had a minor accident with my 2021 Buick Envision. Hit a cement pillar in a parking garage. Not a huge deal. This happened on June 2nd.  My car is still waiting parts for repair. Collison center said bring it in on Aug 2nd, the parts are here. Turns out they were not. Now the vehicle is unsafe to drive (they removed the rear passenger door and quarter panel) so we've been in a rental. Thank god for USAA insurance. They continue to pay for the rental. So to the point of this paragraph, I wish they would do for me that they did for you and just let me go buy a new vehicle. 

[ridgebackpilot]

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@CreditCuriosity wrote:

Bought a new car a few months back I could of paid about 15k over msrp near me or take a 140 miles drive to a dealership with integerity that was willing to sell at MSRP a few options different, but preffered option/color at other dealership so drove the extra 140 miles and told over MSRP dealership you will never get business from me or anyone I know.  It will come back and byte many of them in the longterm for their shorterm greed and taking advantage of market conditions.

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Glad to hear you didn't pay ADM (additional dealer markup), which all too many unscrupulous dealers are charging these days for cars in demand, especially electric vehicles. But 140 miles is nothing; I had to drive 1,700 miles this summer to find the car I wanted at MSRP!

My story: This summer, I was looking to acquire a 2022 Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Edition, the top-of-the-line trim. MSRP is around $70K plus, and they were in such demand that every dealer in California who could get their hands on one applied $10K-$20K markup. Like you, I told them I never pay ADM and would never do business with them. After all greedy dealers add no value, they just add cost!

As luck would have it, however, a friend of mine in North Dakota had special ordered the car I wanted from his local Ford dealer. He let me know that he'd decided not to go ahead with the purchase, and that the car would be delivered to the dealer soon. He told me, "North Dakota is oil and gas country. No one wants an EV; everyone drives pickup trucks. If you want the car, call my dealer today!"

I picked up the phone and called the dealer, who it turned out was more than happy to sell me the Mustang Mach-E at MSRP (in fact, they gave me Ford's X-Plan discount pricing, so I paid less than MSRP). When the car arrived, I flew one-way to Williston, ND and sealed the deal, using Ford Motor Credit's innovative Ford Options financing program, which they developed especially for EVs like the Mach-E and F-150 Lightning.

Then I had to drive my new Mustang Mach-E more than 1,700 miles home, through several states that had no DC fast charging stations. In fact, Montana can only be described as a charging desert! To find a reasonably fast charge, I booked an overnight stay at at KOA Kampground and plugged in overnight at one of their 240 volt, 50-amp RV hookups. My portable 40-amp charger worked great and charged the car to 100% overnight. As I pitched my backpacking tent beside the car, all the RV drivers stopped by to gawk; many had never seen an electric car, especially one as attractive as the Mustang Mach-E GT.

Once I got to Idaho, I had DC fast charging stations all the way home. Ford sells new Mach-Es with 250 kwH of free charging, which is the equivalent of several tanks of gas. So I paid nothing to charge most of the way home. I figure I saved at thousands of dollars by purchasing my Mustang Mach-E GT out-of-state to avoid massive dealer markup.

Of course, the North Dakota dealer totally screwed up the registration paperwork for my home state. But I was eventually able to straighten that out. Even that hassle was worth driving such an amazing car and paying less than MSRP for it. 

[sarge12]

About a year ago, I bought a 2022 Toyota Camry Le with many options including Convenience package. It has the moonroof, BSM, adaptive cruise control, door edge and hood protetive clear wrap, etc. It was basically bought for MSRP, but was only 2 grand more than a 2019 with about 13k miles and no sunroof. The chip shortage makes buying cars under MSRP almost impossible, Financed at 1.99% for 5 years. Total price out the door 29400. One year later the amout owed is 23835, and the KBB value with the 3600 miles and options installed is now 28600-28900. In effect due to the chip shortage I could sell the car and be out only 500 bucks for 12 months of driving...amazing. I have actually seen the exact same car selling used with 7200 miles, the same options at a used car lot for 500 bucks more than I paid for it brand new. With the chip shortage still in full force, the days of the car depreciating whenyou drive it off the lot is for now, a thing of the past. There is just far to much demand for very low inventory. If you can find your desired car for MSRP buy it. It is a sellers market right now. That goes for used cars as well, so the asking price for a 2 year old certified used car is almost as high as the new car.