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I am looking for some advice. I have a car financed through Ally that we purchased in 2016. In 2020 we were forced to file chapter 13 due to the economic status and our business suffering. Fast forward to this year, our case was dismissed. Now there is still a balance of $31k to pay the vehicle off. I am wanting to keep the repo off my credit but don't have the $31k or ability to obtain financing. I've reached out to Ally which directs me to Asset Recovery which seems to be run by a company called AIG Portfolio. I asked if there was an option for a settlement offer or to make larger payments to get it paid off soon. However, since the loan matured in February and Ally shows the account as closed and charged off I must work with the recovery department. The vehicle is now in repo status and I'm unsure what to do. I've tried to negotiate with them but the language barrier is making it rather difficult. Any advice or does anyone have experience working with their Asset Recovery?
No experience with the company. I'm hopefully giving your post a bump.
FWIW, you could ask for an American English speaker as a first language. Also, push the Spanish button. The person answering often speaks Am-Eng. Lastly, ask for all of the paperwork regarding this matter. This would include the auction of your former vehicle.
Good luck!
From what I get from your post the vehicle has already been repossessed.
If it has been repossessed, you almost always have a very limited amount of time (7 to 10 days) to either bring the loan current, which you can't do since it's been charged off, or, come up with the balance.
Recovery companies generally don't hold on to cars very long before they send them to auction.
If it hasn't been repossessed yet, they're looking for it. If they're willing to accept payment and release the car to you, again, they'd be looking for the balance owed (plus any other fees due) in order to release the car.
@JoeRockhead wrote:From what I get from your post the vehicle has already been repossessed.
If it has been repossessed, you almost always have a very limited amount of time (7 to 10 days) to either bring the loan current, which you can't do since it's been charged off, or, come up with the balance.
Recovery companies generally don't hold on to cars very long before they send them to auction.
If it hasn't been repossessed yet, they're looking for it. If they're willing to accept payment and release the car to you, again, they'd be looking for the balance owed (plus any other fees due) in order to release the car.
They generally hold them for the least amount of time required by law because if the person who couldn't afford a car and that's why they had a loan in the first place, who defaulted on the loan, could pay to redeem, they wouldn't have had the loan in the first place and would have bought the car.
If you're at a place where they defaulted on the loan, it means 99% of the time nobody's coming to try to get the car back. And if they do, basically what happens is they charge you what amounts to like $400-500 a day for having repossessed and stored it.
That's why I say don't be chump, pay cash.
Do you know what happens to my car next month if all our income stops right now? I still have it.
Do you know what happens to my car next year? I still have it.
A car loan is essentially nothing more than a ball and chain that follows you around for several years, taking $5-10 per DAY for the bank interest, and then you might lose the car if anything happens. People get into a car loan because they think it's important to impress people at a stop light. It's not. Nobody cares.
What can I do with $10 a day that's not bank interest? Well, that's still half our grocery budget even after the last 4 years happened.
What can I do with no loans and no debt? The bank can pay ME and loan it to some person to finance a midlife crisis.
I don't care what they spend it on. It's FDIC-insured on my end. The bank can sue them if they don't pay for it. That's between them and the bank.
But on a personal note, people absolutely should stop acting like overgrown children and coming to these forums to ask how they can get their hands on a $90,000 car for no money down that's going to be cut in value 60% by depreciation in five years while they pay bank interest and end up having the bank out hunting for their car when they fall behind. That's not exactly my concern, more like a general statement of fact.
I actually, and this is true, saw someone on here asking if they could "give the car back to the bank" after their friend flaked out on the bank after they co-signed (which the bank saw coming, hence the co-signing). If I'm not going to sign on a new car for myself because I know it's a horrible deal, why would I do it for someone else and put my life on the line because the bank already sized them up and determined they won't pay? 99 out of 100 co-signs, if not more, end up like that. "Can we give the car back?" Oh, and then some honey. And then some.
This forum catches them on both ends. All wide eyed sizing up a car they can't afford, and then ones on the other end sweating and panicking about what a horrible deal the dealership and the bank got past them and how there's no way to actually pay for it.
What is my car? My car is four wheels that go back and forth to work and to get groceries, preferably as cheaply as possible.
If I had anything to say about it, we'd have an inter-urban and not be a car-based society. Everything about owning a car is terrible, from the payments, to the insurance, to the "everything malfunctions" stage, and so it can go back and forth digging a rut in the street from your commute and to the grocery store.
While I was thinking on this some more, I know that sometimes lenders will deliberately avoid picking up a car that was discharged when the car's not worth much.
It leaves the borrower in a situation where they don't have the title, but they also can't get rid of the car. It's a strongarm tactic.
They should reopen the bankruptcy and make a motion to redeem the car for $1.
If the lender responds and accepts the $1, the borrower gets the ownership of their car complete with the title for $1. The lender is basically admitting that they don't want the car and it was never about the car, and they were just trying to strongarm you into paying even with the bankruptcy, which is illegal.
If they contest it, it means that they could end up being court ordered to pick up the car or hand you the title.
The other option is to abandon the car at a bank branch of the bank that gave you the car loan. Take the plates, take your stuff, lock the doors, take the insurance off of it, and they'll tow it away eventually and sell it for scrap.
Another option is to get with a car scrapper who takes cars with title issues, and they might even offer you a fair bit of cash, because what they'll do with it is let it sit in an impound yard for a while and then bill the lender for it sitting there. Then they'll get a scrapper's lien on the title and sell it for scrap metal regardless of what the bank wants because their lien will get them the title by force for scrapping purposes.
There's some ways to play hardball with an unscrupulous lender who is trying to make you pay for a car that was included in bankruptcy.
But generally as long as the car runs fine you can keep registering it and driving it even if it's technically liable to be repossessed. If it's been "years gone by" they obviously don't really want it.
Financing is bad. Especially on used cars, it's bad.
The average rate for new is 7%. The average rate for used is 11.6. So you can buy a newer used car and the loan interest can wind up costing you more than a new car.
It's always better to pay cash, especially since some of these lenders are out there charging so much interest that it goes up nearly as fast as you pay it. More than half of subprime car loans get repossessed eventually, and the higher the interest rate bracket, the higher the repo rate.
At a certain point, they're just borrowing at "mafia interest rates" where there's a 90% chance the car goes right back or the engine will blow up, you can't pay for the loan or a new engine, and you get yourself sued while you have no car.
Many lenders don't care if you ever pay it off because their business model assumes you won't and they'll make a lot of money anyway.
My mom's ex-husband ended up buying a 1993 Chevy Pickup from a BHPH lot in 2013, so 20 years old then. It was rusty, and they put a starter inhibitor on it that enforced the weekly payment schedule. The cost to have bad credit is a short leash and a lot of interest. He ended up paying more interest than the cost of the truck, which was already marked up over 300% above fair market value because it was intended to be financed to people who don't have two nickels to rub and don't pay their bills.
Many people in this country sleep better at night thinking finance is regulated, and while it kind of is, it's really the Wild West. Anything goes, and the people who run those "weekly payment" lots don't tend to follow the laws unless it happens to benefit them to do so because they deal with people who are too poor to sue them.
As far as the court system is set up, there's only one class of people rich enough to sue over anything. People who don't really need the money but sue to enforce their contracts to scare people they do business with into paying. And people who don't really plan to win the lawsuit, they just use them as paper terrorism against victims that have to defend themselves until they're out of money.
Nobody cares what the used car lot did to you, and good luck getting it in front of a judge that cares about you.
Yet another "financing is bad" screed; yeah, we get it, credit is difficult to understand and use for some folks, for the rest of us financing, used properly, is a very good and healthy thing.
Chapter 13:
I categorically refuse to do AZEO!








@Horseshoez wrote:Yet another "financing is bad" screed; yeah, we get it, credit is difficult to understand and use for some folks, for the rest of us financing, used properly, is a very good and healthy thing.
"Credit, used properly...something something Chapter 13 something something more credit cards and auto loan."
"I create nothing. I loan!" doesn't have the same ring to it as Michael Douglas's line, does it?