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Santander is Bizzare

I just rejected got from Roadloans with a 567 score. I have a car financed with Chrysler at 8.04% when my score was 517 in 2015. I also used Santander in 2014 with a 494 score finnaced a car at 14.9. Never 30 days late on either loan.  Make no sense. I figure I would put in an app to see where I stand.  No auto 30 baddies either.  Any thoughts??

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ls2016
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Re: Santander is Bizzare

You're shooting for a 2nd auto loan or trade in? Maybe your debt to income maybe spooky for Santander. You can always try GM Financial, although you'll face an unappealing monthly payment, APR, and length of repayment term. Any way to improve score short term?
Current FICO 8s: Ex 768, Tu 741, Eq 741
Current FICO 9s: Ex 775, Tu ?? Eq 781
Total TLs: $120,000
8 (30-60 day) mortgage lates and 2 (30 day) auto lates remain from Jan., Feb. 2016
Current Mortgage Ex. Fico 2 787
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StartingOver10
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@Anonymous wrote:

I just rejected got from Roadloans with a 567 score. I have a car financed with Chrysler at 8.04% when my score was 517 in 2015. I also used Santander in 2014 with a 494 score finnaced a car at 14.9. Never 30 days late on either loan.  Make no sense. I figure I would put in an app to see where I stand.  No auto 30 baddies either.  Any thoughts??


The 8.04% with Chrysler is a great rate considering your score. As the other poster remarked, are you keeping this vehicle and adding another vehicle payment?

Have all of your payments also been on time for the last two years (in addition to the auto loans)?  

 

I ask because if you are adding another debt and have had late payments in the last two years, that in itself would spook the lender even if your DTI ratio showed okay. 

 

Have you had time to visit the rebuilding forum here? I see you have been able to bring your score up from 494 to 567 - but if you could get into the mid-600s, the choice of lenders would open up for you.

 

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Anonymous
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The car from 2014 was traded for the 2015 loan. I have another loan from Santander on a 2008 at 18% and thinking of chucking it. My 2015 car I am on the loan alone and the 2008 I am co with my wife. Got rejected when i applied with her as a co as well. Not a big deal thought it was bizzare with a clean auto history. Reasons for rejection are as followsSmiley Sadal CC issues and not auto or home loam issues)

 

Account opened in the last 36 months 30 days or more past due or derogatory 90 days delinquent or derogatory reported on  trade line within the first 12 months from opening
Percentage of revolving trades never delinquent or derogatory in the last 24 months is too low

 

Key factors that adversely affected your credit score:
Too many credit inquiries made in the last 12 months
Account opened in the last 36 months 30 days or more past due or derogatory 90 days delinquent or derogatory reported on  trade line within the first 12 months from opening
Percentage of revolving trades never delinquent or derogatory in the last 24 months is too low
Ratio of balances to limit on bank revolving or other rev accts too high Time since delinquency is too recent or unknown
Number of accounts with delinquency Serious delinquency and public record

 

 

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Anonymous
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It looks like you get a car loan every year.  That is unusual.

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Anonymous
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With a 567 you cannot get mad if any lender denies you.  I follow the industry and several lenders have made statements of scaling back on subprime lending and becoming more conservative, Santander is one of those lenders.  Within their portfolio they are trying to balance risk a bit more than in the past.  This is because delinquency rates for subprime auto loans has been rising these past several months.  Lenders change their policies all the time to keep that balance.  Your best defense is to work on rebuilding, I was in your situation a couple of years ago and was able to refinace a high interest Santander loan about 6 months after i struggled to get it with NFCU for 1/3 the interest.  Putting some effort info rebuilding is the best investment I could have made.  Saved about 6k in interest over the life of the loan.

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Anonymous
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@Anonymous wrote:

With a 567 you cannot get mad if any lender denies you.  I follow the industry and several lenders have made statements of scaling back on subprime lending and becoming more conservative, Santander is one of those lenders.  Within their portfolio they are trying to balance risk a bit more than in the past.  This is because delinquency rates for subprime auto loans has been rising these past several months.  Lenders change their policies all the time to keep that balance.  Your best defense is to work on rebuilding, I was in your situation a couple of years ago and was able to refinace a high interest Santander loan about 6 months after i struggled to get it with NFCU for 1/3 the interest.  Putting some effort info rebuilding is the best investment I could have made.  Saved about 6k in interest over the life of the loan.


I'm not mad just surprised given I have no 30 day baddies on an auto loan with them and Chrysler. I will just keep my 2008 for now at 18%, small balance at 6,300 and feel fortunate the car is very sound mechanically and payment is only 196.28 a month. Car is uncomfotable though but I only drive it short distances.

 

In all honestly if I was a lender, I would give me an auto loan but a credit card no way.

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DeeBee78
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@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

With a 567 you cannot get mad if any lender denies you.  I follow the industry and several lenders have made statements of scaling back on subprime lending and becoming more conservative, Santander is one of those lenders.  Within their portfolio they are trying to balance risk a bit more than in the past.  This is because delinquency rates for subprime auto loans has been rising these past several months.  Lenders change their policies all the time to keep that balance.  Your best defense is to work on rebuilding, I was in your situation a couple of years ago and was able to refinace a high interest Santander loan about 6 months after i struggled to get it with NFCU for 1/3 the interest.  Putting some effort info rebuilding is the best investment I could have made.  Saved about 6k in interest over the life of the loan.


I'm not mad just surprised given I have no 30 day baddies on an auto loan with them and Chrysler. I will just keep my 2008 for now at 18%, small balance at 6,300 and feel fortunate the car is very sound mechanically and payment is only 196.28 a month. Car is uncomfotable though but I only drive it short distances.

 

In all honestly if I was a lender, I would give me an auto loan but a credit card no way.


From a lender's perspective it doesn't matter if you've "behaved" with your auto loan payments. You haven't been as diligent with paying your debt on time in general, and that's what concerns them. 

 

I have to disagree with your last statement, I absolutely wouldn't give you an auto loan if I was a lender. I would look at your payment history for the last two years, and I would wonder why your scores have been in the low 500's for so long. 




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