I meant the simulator said the interest rate would be over 6% and I got 5.4 at my CU.
Some dealers post their required scores to make their tiers and if so you may find out what tier you are in even if iots for a car you dont want.
I also have a dim view of dealers but the truth is a good finance office should know what rates you could qaulify for without having to apply.
I would find a car I liked, and try to do a deal with the understanding that the interest rates, payment and price must all be in writting first. Dont take the car or sign for the loan until they give it to you in writing including who is financing the loan.
1/25/2021: FICO 850 EQ 848 TU 847 EX