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That is the report lenders see. There is some debate about whether they can "see" more or not, but the reports at the above link are what you need to know to determine if the information is reported accurately or not on your three reports. Pull each one separately.
@Anonymous wrote:Here is something else.... I was just reading on Experian how they were saying what I see, is not the actual credit report that lenders see..... just as I have been told here.
But then it occured to me, I had some bad information removed from my credit report that they show me..... is this actually being removed from the one given to Lenders ? How do I know it is if I cannot see it ?
This whole system is a crock.... you can't even get your hands on and manage what these credit reporting agencies are saying about you is in fact true or false ! Doesn't seem right that they give us a phony credit report.... I want to see what they give to the lenders. (you know, the one that matters), not the fantasy one.
I've applied for auto loans, CCs, and a mortgage and the report the lender viewed was exactly the same as the report I obtained from any of the 3 CRAs (EQ, EX, and TU). I haven't seen any posts saying they are different. Now the format and layout is different, but if you pull from the 3 CRAs or from annualcreditreport.com, the info will match up.
I too was scared about that because I had some baddies fall off due to repair. I didn't want my lenders seeing what I knew.
Then, it sounds like the information is exactly the same..... but the score they show is different
On one hand, we have an actual FiCO score of some sort that only lenders see.
then on the other hand, we have some sort of phony score they show the consumer. I don't get it..... why not just use the same score for it all.... show me what they get so I can manage appropriately. Knowledge is wealth. (its seems like a bit of un-necessary trouble to go the trouble of creating a phony score in the first place. Just stay with one... give it to consumers, give it to lenders, life is good, everybody is happy)
If they have different scores such as a score for 1) Auto 2) Mortgage 3) credit cards...... why not show them all to me. How hard could that be ? At the top of the credit report, they can show me in the following format:
General Score: 700
Auto Score: 707
Mortgage Score: 685
Credit Card Score: 712
And of course the scale. Thus, I would at least know how I am viewed and could work on improving wherever my weakness is by researching what is deemed important by each...... and fixing the problem.
I am the type of person that likes to identify a problem, then formulate a strategy of fixing the problem..... and then executing that strategy. But, in the world of credit, this is proving a little difficult. Not sure what to do aside from the general advise of just pay your bills on-time.![]()
@Anonymous wrote:
I am the type of person that likes to identify a problem, then formulate a strategy of fixing the problem..... and then executing that strategy. But, in the world of credit, this is proving a little difficult. Not sure what to do aside from the general advise of just pay your bills on-time.
Yes, the credit scoring industry is very difficult to navigate by us consumers. But, that statement (highlighted in red) is the key to your success!
@Anonymous wrote:Then, it sounds like the information is exactly the same..... but the score they show is different
On one hand, we have an actual FiCO score of some sort that only lenders see.
then on the other hand, we have some sort of phony score they show the consumer. I don't get it..... why not just use the same score for it all.... show me what they get so I can manage appropriately. Knowledge is wealth. (its seems like a bit of un-necessary trouble to go the trouble of creating a phony score in the first place. Just stay with one... give it to consumers, give it to lenders, life is good, everybody is happy)
If they have different scores such as a score for 1) Auto 2) Mortgage 3) credit cards...... why not show them all to me. How hard could that be ? At the top of the credit report, they can show me in the following format:
General Score: 700
Auto Score: 707
Mortgage Score: 685
Credit Card Score: 712
And of course the scale. Thus, I would at least know how I am viewed and could work on improving wherever my weakness is by researching what is deemed important by each...... and fixing the problem.
I am the type of person that likes to identify a problem, then formulate a strategy of fixing the problem..... and then executing that strategy. But, in the world of credit, this is proving a little difficult. Not sure what to do aside from the general advise of just pay your bills on-time.
Like I mentioned earlier, many - myself included - have made the mistake of purchasing non-FICO credit scores without realizing the difference. It all comes down to money, in my opinion. The credit reporting agencies have created their own credit monitoring services and their own version of credit scoring to sell to consumers. So long as they can convince people to purchase these scores, they'll continue to make and market them.
As for making all scores available to consumers, you're preaching to the choir! We're coming on 3 years since we've been able to purchase a real Experian FICO score through this website. And the auto industry-specific FICO scores are also impossible to come by without actually applying for credit at a dealership. We've all lamented the fact that access to actual FICO scores is quite limited. Again, this is all related to the business of credit scoring, the nuances of which I cannot begin to understand.
If somebody owns information about me and you and they do not want me and you to see this information.... then there is always a reason. It would be interesting if somebody intently studied the situation.... I suspect there is another category that influences the score that they don't want you to see or know. We'll call it the dark matter factor. It is perhaps a factor that would not be approved by many.....