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Re: denied, denied, denied

Hi, from someone who has been there: 

 

You will probably have much better luck looking at autotrader.com dealers versus going to a major new car dealer and applying for loan after loan.  There are all kinds of smaller car sales outfits out there that will probably work for you if one of you has decent income.  Look for EZ financing and places that qualify you more by current income/paystubs. These smaller dealers work with multiple lenders that try to offer people in your situation a way to buy.   

 

Go ahead and tell them your credit score and see if they can use one of their lenders for you.  Also you will be able to put way less down as a downpayment.  Your interest rate may be 19%, mine was.  But it did help me build my credit score since I made all the payments on time, and I have a nice paid-for car right now.  You are probably better off not using your car as a trade in since they may go all thru the paperwork for the new car deal and then offer you very little for yours (bait and switch technique).  

 

If you are renting where you live they really have no way of checking your monthly obligation there (since it won't show up on a credit report)  FYI so it may not have to factor in your monthly debt that you disclose.  Take a mechanic when you get right down to the buying process, and look at the CarFax.  Don't call private party sellers or you will still have to go to a bank or credit union to get a loan and will face the same scrutiny you got at the major car dealers you already went to. 

 

You could possibly keep dinging your credit rating and further lowering your score by more and more loan inquiries popping up as you keep trying different places, so avoid starting a loan app until you are fairly confident that you will get approved, understand the terms and have inspected the new car.. 

 

AutoTrader.com will give you the info to call the dealers that are selling used cars (many of which still have a warranty).  They will say right there if they offer lender credit or not.  You can call them from the comfort of your home and run your situation and your numbers by them and they will tell you if they have a lender that will work with you.  When the papers are drawn up, just make sure you go over the disclosure page and make sure you can pay off the loan early if you want. 

 

 

Bring your own calculator.  That way you can always refi if you improve your score and can refi with a different loan company or even put it on a credit card if you got a good rate there.  If you still are wanting a new car I think leasing is easier to qualify for and KIA and Mazda seem to be able to lease to people with lower credit scores, that has been my observation.  If there is a TV ad offering a low lease payment like $189 it might be worth calling that dealer and asking them what credit score will qualify for that lease payment. 

 

PS I have no connection with AutoTrader.com, I am just grateful for the service they provide.


Hi Genni and welcome to myFICO.

 

I took the liberty of editing your post to break it into paragraphs. It makes it much easier to read than a single, large block of letters. I changed none of the words.

 

MarineVietVet, myFICO moderator

 

 

 

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carsdepot
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Re: denied, denied, denied

You really need to wait It out. In december 2010 my score was 513, thanks to late student loans. Keep your credit cards open. Get an orchard bank card, they will preapproval you before they pull a hard inquiry and pay down your cards. I'm going to try to be a loan in January myself. In less tan a year I have improved my score 90 points, and hope to be at 625 by january by decreasing credit utilization.

If you do go to a buy here pay here lot, you will not be working of fixing the problem at hand. You will feel much better about your finances when you have things under control. Keep in mind that the most important part of your score is the last 24 months....

In closing: clean up your credit report
Pay down C.C.'s
Give yourself sometime... If you wait a year, save some money, and increase your score you will be ready to purchase a clean reliable vehicle for your family.
myFICO score 548 12/10
currently 603
goal 700
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Anonymous
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Re: denied, denied, denied

thanks; i just saw these last replies! i appreciate everyone's response. we're going to wait it out and just take it day by day. thanks again.

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mtrsprt
Frequent Contributor

Re: denied, denied, denied

A 2007 with 103K miles.  Give it a tune-up, change the front 02's out, and it will probably run just fine.  A new air filter and oil change also.

 

Your car is like NEW compared to what 50% of the population drives.  

 

That rig has another 5 years in it easily.


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Message 24 of 28
MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: denied, denied, denied

Several posts were just removed because they were in no way friendly, supportive, or respectful. It's fine to strongly disagree with the decisions or opinions or actions of someone else but remember to voice that disagreement in the proper way.

 

Otherwise I promise you your comments will not remain very long.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: denied, denied, denied

Sorry marine, I didn't think it was against the rules to tell someone they're trying to make a stupid decision. I'll be sure to tell people to spend beyond their means from now on whenever possible.

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: denied, denied, denied


@Anonymous wrote:

Sorry marine, I didn't think it was against the rules to tell someone they're trying to make a stupid decision. I'll be sure to tell people to spend beyond their means from now on whenever possible.


You're welcome to tell someone whatever you want as long as it's done properly. The forum's User Guidelines and Terms of Service are a good source of information.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

Message 27 of 28
p-
Valued Contributor

Re: denied, denied, denied


@Anonymous wrote:

well, we were approved at one dealership, but they wanted $9500 down!!!! the total price of the car was $18k! unreal! two other dealerships turned us down, and one said based on his experience, we would be denied and he would not push through the application so that he wouldn't waste our time. really? so we're stuck. we have a 2007 Chrysler Town and Country with over 103k miles on it, no warranty, we're upside down, it's not running great, it's guzzling gas like crazy, and we need to get rid of it!! we can

't afford the gas, can't afford to fix it if something goes wrong. we need a reliable car with a warranty, that has good gas mileage. are there ANY options for us at all??? we have $3300 to put down. my husband's credit is in the low 500's. they can't use mine because i have no income. (he works, i stay home with the kids). pretty soon we'll be stuck with a van that doesn't run but we'll still have to make monthly payments on it. help!


True or not, what the potential lender sees when they look at your credit report is someone who is struggling with "lifestyle debt", living above their means, and having trouble meeting current obligations.  That means that the only people willing to take a risk on you and lend you money will be predators, out to take advantage of you.  Don't let them.

 

When you're ready to change things for the better, you need to sit down and take a hard look at every penny you spend.  Find as many ways as possible to trim expenses, get rid of fancy cell phone plans, expensive cable packages, reduce restaurant expenses, anything you can to trim the budget.  Spend the next couple years committed to a financial change and put money away into savings.  Pay off your car note and all of your debts, and when it's time, sell your Chrysler and buy a used car in good condition that gets better mileage.  Put a lot of money down, and pay it off as fast as possible.

 

A three grand stake should be enough to get that T&C in good running shape, and you need to just deal with the mileage for now.  100k is nothing for a modern car, and unless you get a tiny thing you're not going to see a great savings in fuel usage.  Think about it; even if you doubled your gas mileage, it would never justify the cost of buying another new car.  

 

Just to put things into perspective - my wife and I both have professional careers and make good money.  I hit 210,000 miles on my 2000 Jeep this past summer, and bought another one.  It's a 2007, came with 18k miles, and was half the price of new.  I kept the old one, too, since the trade in value would have been too low.  I'll probably still own it at 300,000.  When we bought our house, we picked one about half the price of what we would qualify for.  So now, we can save for retirement, put money into savings, and if something breaks on the car, we'll get it fixed.  No biggie.  And if one of us gets laid off, it won't end our lives.  We agreed that it's just not worth the stress to overextend ourselves.  I'd rather have a vacation every year than an extra 500 square feet of living space.

 

If you can reduce your spending habits, you can open up a lot more options and get a ton of stress out of your life.  I hope I didn't offend you, but from what I'm reading here the last thing you need is more debt.  Make the tough choices now, and have a better future.  I faced the same tough choices as you, and the same frustrations and struggles.  I know how it feels, but I'm glad I made the choices I did.  From where I'm sitting I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

Good luck.

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