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NewBeginnings2024
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Mortgage Chapter 7

I filed chapter 7 for medical debt 10 months ago. I was laid off from a hospital and had to have a major surgery shortly after and so my health insurance was terminated before I could have the surgery. The chapter 7 was discharged very shortly after, I can't remember the exact month. I have since gotten the best job I've ever had and have went back to finish my bachelor's degree. However, this job is 3.5 hours from my home. I have to move because I just got a promotion. Is there anyway at all to get a mortgage loan for a home? I don't care how I have to do it, but the two-year waiting period is absolutely not an option for me. I'm making great money and my credit score is already back up and in good standing. The only thing holding me back is the waiting period. As I stated, I have to move. I do not have a choice. 

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Jnbmom
Credit Mentor

Re: Mortgage Chapter 7

2 years after  discharge for FHA loans , I believe conventional is longer . Yes I see you have to move but you don't have to buy you can rent . I don't believe there is anything  else to do but wait .

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NewBeginnings2024
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Unfortunately, I cannot rent. I have tried. I've looked at probably 50 places. I'm moving to Tennessee for work and it's the most expensive place I've ever been. Even one hour outside of Nashville is insanely expensive. I own my home in Missouri. There's no way I can sell a home I own, just to become a renter in another state. I need to know if there are any non-conventional loan options that may just charge a bit more. 

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Jnbmom
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7

I don't you will find "any" unconventional mortgages until atleast 2 years .

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7


@Jnbmom wrote:

2 years after  discharge for FHA loans , I believe conventional is longer . Yes I see you have to move but you don't have to buy you can rent . I don't believe there is anything  else to do but wait .


You may be able to get one, technically, but in this economy with the interest rates all jacked up, they'll skin you alive on the interest rate with bankruptcy credit, for the life of the loan. So lots of luck with that.

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7


@Jnbmom wrote:

I don't you will find "any" unconventional mortgages until atleast 2 years .


Guy at BofA told me they would write me one at 3 years but if you have a bankruptcy they'd come down another percentage point at 4 years, but the longer you can wait it out the better.

 

So when the loan officer himself is letting some air out of your balloon, then maybe signing on something just to have a mortgage right away isn't the best idea.

 

I do not agree with the people who think housing prices are going to take off when the Fed cuts rates, and there's a consensus of 72% chance of rate cuts starting in September's Fed meeting.

 

The reason I don't believe housing prices will surge is a number of things, including the fact that the Fed has historically overshot on inflation when raising rates, and recession when lowering. If they start lowering aggressively in September, it likely means we've been in a recession for 3-6 months already (like, now).

 

I don't believe that housing prices will go up in the jobs market trajectory we are going in.

 

I don't believe that people who are so tapped out that credit card delinquencies are surging have a lot of money to put down on a house, or the credit to back it up.

 

I believe ultimately, a couple million homes are going to be lost if rates stay higher for much longer because people chose to sign ARMS when rates were low instead of fixed.

 

I don't believe in people trying to make us panic sign a mortgage at a bad rate now.

 

There are ads on the radio right now from a business building homes that says materials costs are low because of the bad interest rates consumers are dealing with and if you wait, the materials might go up. While that's true, it's also specious. You also have to consider that new housing starts are in the dumps and this guy builds homes, so he has a motive to paint a picture that things may get worse if you don't hire him now. Even when that's not necessarily true and is only one possibility.

 

Personally I plan to keep flying in circles with savings earning higher interest until the long term picture becomes more obvious on whether our economy and/or interest rates on loan products will do better and I can make a major purchase, like a new car at lower rates, or if the bottom will fall out and I'll need to tap the bolstered savings. The bank is going around on the back end with my deposits buying $150,000 Tesla Cybertrucks for people getting their pink slips right now.

 

If you want to know what really scares me, it's a person whose thoughts and opinions and strategies stay the same despite changing data and circumstances. Many people only think about the current day or week and are surprised when life happens and there's no way to make it to next month.

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GreatLife
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7

I experienced similar housing concern under entirely different circumstances. What I did was to temporarily use one of those extended stay room hotels as a monthly rental, then spend every off work day checking out HUD extended property listings. Eventually found one in a decent safe area with good school district that only needed some cosmetics & appliances, took about 3 months. Used a personal loan to pay cash, then used cash to fix it up. 5 years later sold it quick for my all in costs including taxes/utilities/ homeowners. Then I moved back to my home state..literally ended up living five years for free in the other state and could've easily made a profit but just wanted to go "home" asap. Probably would've either refinanced any assiciated debt into a home equity loan if I'd stayed there, or eventually sold it for profit and built a house. Not my way but point is if you might consider out the box ideas to maybe discover some non-standard opportunities?

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Horseshoez
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7

I have to laugh when I read all this fussing about "bad" interest rates; my wife and I bought two homes back in the 1990s, in 1995 our mortgage was just over 9.2%, so when we built our dream home in 1997 we were thrilled to get that "jumbo" mortgage for a flat 8%.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7


@NewBeginnings2024 wrote:

I filed chapter 7 for medical debt 10 months ago. I was laid off from a hospital and had to have a major surgery shortly after and so my health insurance was terminated before I could have the surgery. The chapter 7 was discharged very shortly after, I can't remember the exact month. I have since gotten the best job I've ever had and have went back to finish my bachelor's degree. However, this job is 3.5 hours from my home. I have to move because I just got a promotion. Is there anyway at all to get a mortgage loan for a home? I don't care how I have to do it, but the two-year waiting period is absolutely not an option for me. I'm making great money and my credit score is already back up and in good standing. The only thing holding me back is the waiting period. As I stated, I have to move. I do not have a choice. 


Did you tell anyone you were having the surgery shortly before the layoff, and how many people were affected by this layoff?

 

That's what I'd be looking at here. If they hurried up and fired you so you couldn't have the surgery, use FMLA, and cost their health insurance.

 

Call local realtors and ask if any have a rent-to-own contract they offer on a house. Many of them in some areas will just bypass the banks entirely and work with you. It may be a little steeper than a normal mortgage if you compute the interest rate, but maybe not so much if you already have a bankruptcy and try to ask for a mortgage as soon as you can get one, or can't get one.

 

I personally just wouldn't even deal with the banks right now where I'm at if I was interested in buying a home. I'd phone up my old landlord and come up with a rental purchase contract. With the interest rate that guy at BofA wanted, no way, and especially since coughing up enough of a down payment to avoid cash-in-the-trash PMI would be difficult. Homes have gotten rather expensive and 20% of where they are now leaves most people paying horrible interest and PMI, which is totally useless and another way they can gouge you.

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Mortgage Chapter 7


@Horseshoez wrote:

I have to laugh when I read all this fussing about "bad" interest rates; my wife and I bought two homes back in the 1990s, in 1995 our mortgage was just over 9.2%, so when we built our dream home in 1997 we were thrilled to get that "jumbo" mortgage for a flat 8%.


That must have been nice, before the price of the exact same house tripled. Or more.

 

My parents bought a house in 1980. Mortgage rates were even worse than what you describe, however the house was $20,000.

 

The last time it sold, Zillow said was a few years ago and the price was $127,000. So yeah, just make the house more than 6 times as much money and quibble about interest rates a little bit. Try financing this with bankruptcy credit and high rates.

 

The government lies and says the money has only lost 2/3rds of its value since I've been alive, in truth it's far worse than that, especially in housing. Where they have all these scams like Realpage for landlords (price fixing, illegal, being sued for antitrust) and the manipulation of housing prices (keeping empty homes off the market, suppressing new starts to inflate existing inventory).

 

In reality, the money has lost nearly half its value in the past four years alone. I've been alive for a little over 40. So they're claiming, amusingly, that the value has dropped by only 66% in 40 years when it's dropped by almost half in the last 4.

 

We made a lot less in 2020 than we do now and we were living fine off of it back then before this new landlord came in and they all started causing problems. Raising the rent $100 a month every year, not fixing the toilets not flushing and backing up on some of the people in the other building until you call the city on him, and then it becomes an emergency and he calls his "guy" from his vacation overseas and yells at him to rig it so it works again a day before the fines are set to begin.

 

These people are just criminals except that they control what the law says so nothing they do is actually a crime, per se.

 

Housing....don't even get me started on housing... Well, too late. It's steal steal steal whatever isn't nailed down. Landlords are terrible, banks are worse. Many of them want "$40 a month pet rent per cat" plus "a $400 non-refundable fee per cat", and "a pet interview" and "a $250 administrative fee" and a "$75 per applicant fee" and a "$450 move-in fee" and a fee fi fo fum fee, and then there's the deposit, and they're all collaborating, so it's hardly worth coughing up any of this, plus the moving van, plus time off to load it all up. Then the trips to the DMV and USCIS to update addresses where they all want to see every document you've ever had in your life, then they said the documents you brought were fine on their website, but when you get there, some guy says they're not and "What is the Selective Service System?"

 

Then imagine doing all that and finding out that the new landlord is an even bigger jerk than the one you just moved out on. Happens.

 

Also, what the hell is a pet interview?

 

Is that where they sit down with the cat and ask it where it sees itself in five years?

 

Paying all these fees in exchange for a 12 month lease and then maybe having to move again is always nice. I'll give them this much though, landlords have found a way to make themselves an even bigger bunch of freeloaders off of people who work than lawyers have.

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